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Rockstar co-founder [Dan Houser] compares AI to 'mad cow disease,' and says the execs pushing it aren't 'fully-rounded humans'

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  • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

    …while his multibillion dollar company is union busting.

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    townhousegloryhole@lemmy.world
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    He left Rockstar a few years ago.

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    • B boonhet@sopuli.xyz

      The ones that were fired 5 years after he left R*? I mean, it’d be nice if he did, but is he really at fault here?

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      If some of these 35 visa dependent worked for more than 9 years, I am pretty sure he was there when they were exploited to work there. There’s no indication that these workers have less than a 5 year tenure.

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      • Øπ3ŕO Øπ3ŕ

        You think he was subconsciously hinting at his prominent cranium?

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        Projection is a silly thing. Especially when it’s digressive.

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        • B boonhet@sopuli.xyz

          What’d he do?

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          He hired the foreigners that were fired recently when he was still a founder.

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          • T TheRealKuni

            A man who left Rockstar five years before they fired people for discussing unionizing?

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            #46

            Refresh the thread. He hired the fired foreigners when he was still director.^CX^

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            • O oshaqhennessey@midwest.social

              Yeah, pretty sure you’re right. Though I’ll admit I’ve forgotten much more than I know on the topic.

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              ripcord@lemmy.world
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              • 反いじめ戦隊A 反いじめ戦隊

                He hired the foreigners that were fired recently when he was still a founder.

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                boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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                #48

                Fair enough, giving people jobs in a country where they can actually make a living is a bad thing.

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                • 反いじめ戦隊A 反いじめ戦隊

                  Refresh the thread. He hired the fired foreigners when he was still director.^CX^

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                  cilethesane@lemmy.ca
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                  I’m not following, he hired some people, then 5 years after he left someone else fired those people? Isn’t he more likely the good guy in the scenerio?

                  “How dare you give these people a job? That put them in a position where someone else could take away their job!”

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                  • B boonhet@sopuli.xyz

                    Fair enough, giving people jobs in a country where they can actually make a living is a bad thing.

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                    You legitimately believe visa workers were not threatened to be deported in the UK if they worked for less than their Unionized workers who actually negotiated for living wages‽ In the Brexit economy‽

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                    • cilethesane@lemmy.caC cilethesane@lemmy.ca

                      I’m not following, he hired some people, then 5 years after he left someone else fired those people? Isn’t he more likely the good guy in the scenerio?

                      “How dare you give these people a job? That put them in a position where someone else could take away their job!”

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                      It honestly depends how he hired them. If he offered them living wages, plus Visa fees, lawyers, and healthcare, he was a “good employer” when he hired them. The fact the union discord server is older than 5 years leads me to believe the visa dependent were offered less. So he exploited them knowing they can be deported as soon as the studio was done with them.

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                      • 反いじめ戦隊A 反いじめ戦隊

                        You legitimately believe visa workers were not threatened to be deported in the UK if they worked for less than their Unionized workers who actually negotiated for living wages‽ In the Brexit economy‽

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                        boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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                        #52

                        You don’t have to threaten to deport your workers if you sign the contract beforehand though? Once they’ve agreed to the salary, they’ve agreed to it. Did they make less than a pureblood Brit in the same role? Perhaps. We don’t know that. But generally speaking, you don’t go importing labour unless you literally can’t find enough locals anymore. The bureaucracy nightmare isn’t worth the cost savings otherwise. Particularly because a lot of countries don’t allow you to pay the imported labour less than you’d pay your purebloods in the same role. Exception of course being people from countries with whom you have freedom of movement (so anything intra-EU is allowed)

                        Also, it’s not like he was the CEO or something. He was the creative director. I swear some people just want to be angry at everyone.

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                        • T townhousegloryhole@lemmy.world

                          He left Rockstar a few years ago.

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                          savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                          #53

                          Did I say he was union busting? Read the English. He started Rockstar.

                          So maybe he is a little more qualified to criticize Rockstar management for being “fully rounded”.

                          Was Rockstar unionized while he was there? No.

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                          • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                            Did I say he was union busting? Read the English. He started Rockstar.

                            So maybe he is a little more qualified to criticize Rockstar management for being “fully rounded”.

                            Was Rockstar unionized while he was there? No.

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                            dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
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                            I mean you said his, which is factually incorrect as it isn’t his.

                            Read the room bro and learn to take constructive criticism. It’s not a personal attack.

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                            • B boonhet@sopuli.xyz

                              You don’t have to threaten to deport your workers if you sign the contract beforehand though? Once they’ve agreed to the salary, they’ve agreed to it. Did they make less than a pureblood Brit in the same role? Perhaps. We don’t know that. But generally speaking, you don’t go importing labour unless you literally can’t find enough locals anymore. The bureaucracy nightmare isn’t worth the cost savings otherwise. Particularly because a lot of countries don’t allow you to pay the imported labour less than you’d pay your purebloods in the same role. Exception of course being people from countries with whom you have freedom of movement (so anything intra-EU is allowed)

                              Also, it’s not like he was the CEO or something. He was the creative director. I swear some people just want to be angry at everyone.

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                              If he wasn’t part of the hiring decisions, I take back what I said. But creative directors do influence who gets assigned roles in a studio, and what tasks get sent to the visa’d. There’s nothing indicating he wasn’t aware the studio hired visa workers when he worked there. Accents and vernaculars differ. I doubt he was oblivious that roles he assigned to foreigners were not hired to be exploited.

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                              • O oshaqhennessey@midwest.social

                                Mad cow disease is caused by prions from dead cow brains infecting the healthy brains of living cows. It’s kind of the cow equivalent of Kuru.

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                                savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                Those prions can also infect humans leading to Creutzfeld Jacob syndrome. Prions can also come from wild deer species and infect through venison.

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                                • G greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  I thought it wasn’t just any prions, but specific prions that replicate out of control after some time, depending on genetics. So cows were fed unclean bone meal from sheep and pigs and cows all mixed together, and they think some scrapie infected sheep spine/brain got in there and it spread to cows. Then it spread from there because we didn’t think cows could get it and even if they could we were pretty certain humans couldn’t get it. But we were wrong.

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                                  savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                  There is a natural incidence of prions in cows of one in a million, but we have herds this big now.

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                                  • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip

                                    Tired of dealing with greed-flated, not fully rounded humans? I can relate.

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                                    savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                    He left with a shit ton of money.

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                                    • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                      There is a natural incidence of prions in cows of one in a million, but we have herds this big now.

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                                      There’s natural incidence of prion disease in humans as well. I’m definitely not an expert and just remembering a video I watched a week or two ago. That the prions from different sources act differently.

                                      Video I watched: Mad cow disease Also watched this one

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                                        Rockstar co-founder compares AI to 'mad cow disease,' and says the execs pushing it aren't 'fully-rounded humans'

                                        Dan Houser probably won't be asking ChatGPT for help with his next game.

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                                        ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        i’m still convinced the only reason they’re pushing it so hard is to invalidate their Kompromat….
                                        we’re already at the point where people don’t believe videos they don’t like.

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                                        • B boonhet@sopuli.xyz

                                          How’s this a fyigm situation? He left 5 years before this particular thing happened, he had no say in it.

                                          Now if he has actual need for these employees in his new company, I could see him hiring them there, but his new studio is in California and those employees were sacked in the UK, meaning they need a new job in the UK to keep living there. He also currently has fewer employees than the amount that R* fired. That’s how small that shop is.

                                          His brother, however, is still an exec at Rockstar. He, along with the rest of R* and Take-Two leadership has a lot to answer for.

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                                          In my eyes it’s simple. His brother is not just an exec at rockstar, he’s the company president. They’re worth hundreds of millions of dollars and both have been in positions to shape company policy especially around labor conditions within their subsidiary.

                                          I can all but promise that a union busting culture is not new. The influence they’ve had as upper executives cannot be minimal, as these guys have been the ones making the golden goose.

                                          Odds are both houser brothers are sitting on loads of take two stock. Their performance bonuses have probably been more money than anyone on here will ever make in their lives, their kids’ lives, or their grandkids’ lives collectively with few if any exceptions. The crunch time issues of the past are absolutely a symptom of the disease: fyigm. Why pay anybody or treat anybody fairly when you can just keep your money?

                                          I’m not saying others are not also to blame, but anyone who is in a top leadership post at an organization usually has a massive amount of discretion especially for those under them.

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