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  • Y yesman@lemmy.world

    I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

    IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience. Does anyone use Windows because they like it?

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    Goodeye8
    wrote on last edited by goodeye8@piefed.social
    #10

    I don’t think the number is indicative of quality. The office suite is their bread and butter (alongside Azure) and Teams is a steaming pile of shit.

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    • M MotoAsh

      It was always going to. People are fundamentally lazy. Until something becomes a need, far too many are going to sit around and whine instead.

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      Rothe
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      Leave it to Linux bros to shit on people who are finally moving to Linux.

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      • A asetru@feddit.org

        So “the year of the Linux desktop” is just around the corner? Again?

        … and all it took was to wait for windows to become unbearably shitty?

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        thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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        Every year is the year of Linux. 🙂

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        • Y yesman@lemmy.world

          I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

          IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience. Does anyone use Windows because they like it?

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          Lvxferre [he/him]
          wrote on last edited by
          #13

          I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

          That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:

          40%     Server Products and Cloud Services
          22%     Office Products and Cloud Services
          10%     Windows
           9%     Gaming
           7%     LinkedIn
           5%     Search and News Advertising
          

          IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.

          It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.

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          • wirelesswire@lemmy.zipW wirelesswire@lemmy.zip

            I wouldn’t be surprised. Desktop revenue has been a pretty small slice for their revenue long before AI was a thing. Their main drivers were server products and O365, and now AI and Azure are also pushing a lot of revenue.

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            DivineDev
            wrote on last edited by divinedev@piefed.social
            #14

            Direct revenue through Windows sales might be low, but I suspect Windows is still important to drive people to buy One Cloud, office 365 etc subscriptions. So when people move away to Linux, the other services should become less profitable with some time delay

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            • D DivineDev

              Direct revenue through Windows sales might be low, but I suspect Windows is still important to drive people to buy One Cloud, office 365 etc subscriptions. So when people move away to Linux, the other services should become less profitable with some time delay

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              wirelesswire@lemmy.zip
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              #15

              Most likely. The majority of MS products and services are interconnected in some way.

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              • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

                That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:

                40%     Server Products and Cloud Services
                22%     Office Products and Cloud Services
                10%     Windows
                 9%     Gaming
                 7%     LinkedIn
                 5%     Search and News Advertising
                

                IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.

                It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.

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                kungfuratte@feddit.org
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                Also: even if they are not directly connected, the fact that one monopoly crumbles might result in the next one falling apart too. Someone who successfully got out of Windows might try to ditch their MS365 subscription too.

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                • M MotoAsh

                  I did back in the XP days. Long, loooong ago…

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                  flameleaf@ani.social
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                  #17

                  XP was alright, but I’m mostly just nostalgic for the aesthetic of 95/98/2000

                  Vista was the reason I switched to Linux

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                    ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    #18

                    I moved to Linux entirely because of how shit Windows is, but I do not, in general, get higher fps. It’s very case-by-case, but in general, my performance seems to be ever so slightly worse.

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                    • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                      I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

                      That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:

                      40%     Server Products and Cloud Services
                      22%     Office Products and Cloud Services
                      10%     Windows
                       9%     Gaming
                       7%     LinkedIn
                       5%     Search and News Advertising
                      

                      IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.

                      It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.

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                      flameleaf@ani.social
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                      #19

                      That 40% isn’t for Windows Server, is it?

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                      • kungfuratte@feddit.orgK kungfuratte@feddit.org

                        Also: even if they are not directly connected, the fact that one monopoly crumbles might result in the next one falling apart too. Someone who successfully got out of Windows might try to ditch their MS365 subscription too.

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                        red_tomato@lemmy.world
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                        #20

                        I don’t think companies are going to ditch their MS365 subscriptions. That would mean getting rid of Outlook and Teams, and that ain’t happening anytime soon.

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                        • A asetru@feddit.org

                          So “the year of the Linux desktop” is just around the corner? Again?

                          … and all it took was to wait for windows to become unbearably shitty?

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                          flameleaf@ani.social
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                          #21

                          Linux users come in waves after every major Windows release

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                          • F flameleaf@ani.social

                            XP was alright, but I’m mostly just nostalgic for the aesthetic of 95/98/2000

                            Vista was the reason I switched to Linux

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                            dissentiate@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            This was the same era when I tried to switch, due to the shittiness of Vista. I wanna say it was Mandrake Linux was what I was trying to use, but I couldn’t get it running correctly on my hardware.

                            Came back some time later and discovered Mepis Linux. After that, I never went back.

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                            • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                              I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

                              That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:

                              40%     Server Products and Cloud Services
                              22%     Office Products and Cloud Services
                              10%     Windows
                               9%     Gaming
                               7%     LinkedIn
                               5%     Search and News Advertising
                              

                              IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.

                              It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.

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                              red_tomato@lemmy.world
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                              Azure has support for Linux servers. They’ve even made an effort to port Dotnet to Linux. A majority of their cloud infrastructure is Linux it seems.

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                              • F flameleaf@ani.social

                                That 40% isn’t for Windows Server, is it?

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                                Lvxferre [he/him]
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #24

                                I had to dig through their annual report to find it:

                                Server products and cloud services revenue growth

                                Revenue from Server products and cloud services, including Azure and other cloud services; SQL Server, Windows Server, Visual Studio, System Center, and related Client Access Licenses (“CALs”); and Nuance and GitHub

                                So it includes Windows Server, but it’s way more than just that.

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                                • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                                  I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

                                  That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:

                                  40%     Server Products and Cloud Services
                                  22%     Office Products and Cloud Services
                                  10%     Windows
                                   9%     Gaming
                                   7%     LinkedIn
                                   5%     Search and News Advertising
                                  

                                  IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.

                                  It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.

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                                  Valmond
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                                  Imagine having to babysit Windows servers

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                                    jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
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                                    Dude is retired and giving his money away.

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                                    • R Rothe

                                      Leave it to Linux bros to shit on people who are finally moving to Linux.

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                                      MotoAsh
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                                      I’m not shitting on “people moving to linux”. I’m shitting on people in general, and you know I’m right, so get out of here with this accusatory misreading trash.

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                                      • G ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        I moved to Linux entirely because of how shit Windows is, but I do not, in general, get higher fps. It’s very case-by-case, but in general, my performance seems to be ever so slightly worse.

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                                        wischi@programming.dev
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                                        #28

                                        I probably hate Microsoft roughly as much as most people here but in a lot of ways Windows is way more polished than Linux. The second you try something “unconventional” in Linux the shit is going to hit the fan. Fractional scale DPI - half the apps crap their pants. On screen keyboard - and don’t get me started with OSK over Firefox in kiosk mode (for example in touch screen settings). Also try to make a custom shortcut on your gnome desktop to run some application with some arguments without writing config files in random directories you have to Google and reloading some configs via a terminal.

                                        Microsoft really went downhill fast and certainly adds a lot of crap to windows lately, but sadly in the Linux world we don’t have 1-3 well polished distros, we have hundreds of them. All good at one or two things, but suck at everything else. There a so many options the choice alone is probably the biggest reason everyday people will not switch to Linux if their device doesn’t already come with Linux. Even people thinking about switching end up with analysis paralysis because everybody tells them stuff like, try it - if you don’t like it try something else. As if they have nothing better to do than trying Linux distros all day long.

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                                        • G ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          I moved to Linux entirely because of how shit Windows is, but I do not, in general, get higher fps. It’s very case-by-case, but in general, my performance seems to be ever so slightly worse.

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                                          switorik@lemmy.zip
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                                          I experience no worse fps than I would on windows. I have star citizen running better on linux then I did on the same windows machine. To each their own I guess.

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