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PC Gamers Abandoning Windows 11 for Linux with Higher FPS & Fewer Interruptions

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  • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

    I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

    That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:

    40%     Server Products and Cloud Services
    22%     Office Products and Cloud Services
    10%     Windows
     9%     Gaming
     7%     LinkedIn
     5%     Search and News Advertising
    

    IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.

    It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.

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    flameleaf@ani.social
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    That 40% isn’t for Windows Server, is it?

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    • kungfuratte@feddit.orgK kungfuratte@feddit.org

      Also: even if they are not directly connected, the fact that one monopoly crumbles might result in the next one falling apart too. Someone who successfully got out of Windows might try to ditch their MS365 subscription too.

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      red_tomato@lemmy.world
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      #20

      I don’t think companies are going to ditch their MS365 subscriptions. That would mean getting rid of Outlook and Teams, and that ain’t happening anytime soon.

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      • A asetru@feddit.org

        So “the year of the Linux desktop” is just around the corner? Again?

        … and all it took was to wait for windows to become unbearably shitty?

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        flameleaf@ani.social
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        Linux users come in waves after every major Windows release

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        • F flameleaf@ani.social

          XP was alright, but I’m mostly just nostalgic for the aesthetic of 95/98/2000

          Vista was the reason I switched to Linux

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          dissentiate@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #22

          This was the same era when I tried to switch, due to the shittiness of Vista. I wanna say it was Mandrake Linux was what I was trying to use, but I couldn’t get it running correctly on my hardware.

          Came back some time later and discovered Mepis Linux. After that, I never went back.

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          • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

            I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

            That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:

            40%     Server Products and Cloud Services
            22%     Office Products and Cloud Services
            10%     Windows
             9%     Gaming
             7%     LinkedIn
             5%     Search and News Advertising
            

            IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.

            It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.

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            red_tomato@lemmy.world
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            Azure has support for Linux servers. They’ve even made an effort to port Dotnet to Linux. A majority of their cloud infrastructure is Linux it seems.

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            • F flameleaf@ani.social

              That 40% isn’t for Windows Server, is it?

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              Lvxferre [he/him]
              wrote on last edited by
              #24

              I had to dig through their annual report to find it:

              Server products and cloud services revenue growth

              Revenue from Server products and cloud services, including Azure and other cloud services; SQL Server, Windows Server, Visual Studio, System Center, and related Client Access Licenses (“CALs”); and Nuance and GitHub

              So it includes Windows Server, but it’s way more than just that.

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              • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                I saw in a recent Youtube video that between web services and AI, Windows licencing is only about 10% of Microslop’s business.

                That’s correct. Here’s some data on Microsoft’s revenue:

                40%     Server Products and Cloud Services
                22%     Office Products and Cloud Services
                10%     Windows
                 9%     Gaming
                 7%     LinkedIn
                 5%     Search and News Advertising
                

                IDK if that number is true, but it sure would explain how much they’ve put into user experience.

                It does but it’s really short-sighted from MS’s part. Sure, Windows might be only 10% of its business, but the other 90% heavily rely on it. Or rather on Windows being a monopoly on desktop OSes; without that people Windows servers, Office and MS “cloud services” (basically: we shit on your computer so much you need to use ours) wouldn’t see the light of the day.

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                Valmond
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                Imagine having to babysit Windows servers

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                  jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
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                  #26

                  Dude is retired and giving his money away.

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                  • R Rothe

                    Leave it to Linux bros to shit on people who are finally moving to Linux.

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                    MotoAsh
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                    #27

                    I’m not shitting on “people moving to linux”. I’m shitting on people in general, and you know I’m right, so get out of here with this accusatory misreading trash.

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                    • G ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      I moved to Linux entirely because of how shit Windows is, but I do not, in general, get higher fps. It’s very case-by-case, but in general, my performance seems to be ever so slightly worse.

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                      wischi@programming.dev
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                      #28

                      I probably hate Microsoft roughly as much as most people here but in a lot of ways Windows is way more polished than Linux. The second you try something “unconventional” in Linux the shit is going to hit the fan. Fractional scale DPI - half the apps crap their pants. On screen keyboard - and don’t get me started with OSK over Firefox in kiosk mode (for example in touch screen settings). Also try to make a custom shortcut on your gnome desktop to run some application with some arguments without writing config files in random directories you have to Google and reloading some configs via a terminal.

                      Microsoft really went downhill fast and certainly adds a lot of crap to windows lately, but sadly in the Linux world we don’t have 1-3 well polished distros, we have hundreds of them. All good at one or two things, but suck at everything else. There a so many options the choice alone is probably the biggest reason everyday people will not switch to Linux if their device doesn’t already come with Linux. Even people thinking about switching end up with analysis paralysis because everybody tells them stuff like, try it - if you don’t like it try something else. As if they have nothing better to do than trying Linux distros all day long.

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                      • G ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        I moved to Linux entirely because of how shit Windows is, but I do not, in general, get higher fps. It’s very case-by-case, but in general, my performance seems to be ever so slightly worse.

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                        switorik@lemmy.zip
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                        I experience no worse fps than I would on windows. I have star citizen running better on linux then I did on the same windows machine. To each their own I guess.

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                        • G ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          I moved to Linux entirely because of how shit Windows is, but I do not, in general, get higher fps. It’s very case-by-case, but in general, my performance seems to be ever so slightly worse.

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                          Levi
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                          Most things seem to run fine for me on linux, but sadly Elden Ring runs a good 10 fps slower than it ran on windows for me.

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                          • R red_tomato@lemmy.world

                            I don’t think companies are going to ditch their MS365 subscriptions. That would mean getting rid of Outlook and Teams, and that ain’t happening anytime soon.

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                            Lvxferre [he/him]
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                            In the hypothetical situation Windows desktop monopoly is over, there’ll be at least some internal pressure to do so. Cost of switch (in money = work hours) might be a pain, but if they believe they’ll profit more by using some competitor that is not Windows exclusive, they’ll eventually do it.

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                            • S switorik@lemmy.zip

                              I experience no worse fps than I would on windows. I have star citizen running better on linux then I did on the same windows machine. To each their own I guess.

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                              ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace
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                              I just reinstalled COD WWII recently and it really does run like shit. Framerate problems that need restarts, poor performance, the sound cuts off if it’s through HDMI for some reason.

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                                SuiXi3D
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                                #33

                                Tossed SteamOS onto my Legion Go last week, and the performance is sooooo much better. I was beginning to wonder why they used such a sharp resolution screen on it because Windows wouldn’t run games very well at the max resolution.

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                                • W wischi@programming.dev

                                  I probably hate Microsoft roughly as much as most people here but in a lot of ways Windows is way more polished than Linux. The second you try something “unconventional” in Linux the shit is going to hit the fan. Fractional scale DPI - half the apps crap their pants. On screen keyboard - and don’t get me started with OSK over Firefox in kiosk mode (for example in touch screen settings). Also try to make a custom shortcut on your gnome desktop to run some application with some arguments without writing config files in random directories you have to Google and reloading some configs via a terminal.

                                  Microsoft really went downhill fast and certainly adds a lot of crap to windows lately, but sadly in the Linux world we don’t have 1-3 well polished distros, we have hundreds of them. All good at one or two things, but suck at everything else. There a so many options the choice alone is probably the biggest reason everyday people will not switch to Linux if their device doesn’t already come with Linux. Even people thinking about switching end up with analysis paralysis because everybody tells them stuff like, try it - if you don’t like it try something else. As if they have nothing better to do than trying Linux distros all day long.

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                                  halcyoncmdr
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                                  This is exactly the type of shit I’ve been trying to explain to the Linux fanboys for years and all of them dismiss outright.

                                  Until simple shit like this is easy for the average person, Linux will never replace Windows as a default OS option for regular users. 99% of people are scared of config files and the terminal, and they’re still just too commonly needed in every distro.

                                  A LOT of work has been done to minimize it, but there’s always still basic functionality that just isn’t in the GUI. That’s not an issue for most of us here… But it is for most people. Fediverse users are a small minority.

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                                  • H halcyoncmdr

                                    This is exactly the type of shit I’ve been trying to explain to the Linux fanboys for years and all of them dismiss outright.

                                    Until simple shit like this is easy for the average person, Linux will never replace Windows as a default OS option for regular users. 99% of people are scared of config files and the terminal, and they’re still just too commonly needed in every distro.

                                    A LOT of work has been done to minimize it, but there’s always still basic functionality that just isn’t in the GUI. That’s not an issue for most of us here… But it is for most people. Fediverse users are a small minority.

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                                    bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                                    You would have to run OpenSUSE tumbleweed to get the GUI equivalent of windows configuration.

                                    Yast has a GUI app for everything from Samba setup to Bootloader config.

                                    The trouble is: initially there is a learning curve to SUSE that is different than something like Mint

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                                    • R red_tomato@lemmy.world

                                      I don’t think companies are going to ditch their MS365 subscriptions. That would mean getting rid of Outlook and Teams, and that ain’t happening anytime soon.

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                                      lemmingabouttoexplode@lemmy.ca
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                                      I don’t think companies are going to ditch their MS365 subscriptions. That would mean getting rid of Outlook and Teams, and that ain’t happening anytime soon.

                                      Can someone more technical than me tell me why Outlook is so awesome for work? I use Outlook 365 for work, and the search function is ass. G-suite worked better on the front end, so I’m wondering about the back end.

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                                      • F flameleaf@ani.social

                                        Linux users come in waves after every major Windows release

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                                        bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                                        It is true, and it’s how I got pushed toward Linux after W10 update turned my wife’s laptop into an unusable OS, and my work update made our CAD software noticably slower. Linux on both machines brought life back to them.

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                                        • H halcyoncmdr

                                          This is exactly the type of shit I’ve been trying to explain to the Linux fanboys for years and all of them dismiss outright.

                                          Until simple shit like this is easy for the average person, Linux will never replace Windows as a default OS option for regular users. 99% of people are scared of config files and the terminal, and they’re still just too commonly needed in every distro.

                                          A LOT of work has been done to minimize it, but there’s always still basic functionality that just isn’t in the GUI. That’s not an issue for most of us here… But it is for most people. Fediverse users are a small minority.

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                                          fascicle@leminal.space
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                                          What do you use the terminal and config files for? I mainly use bazzite now but after a fresh install the most I do is login to steam and change some settings in Firefox. I copy paste my directory settings for imports on darktable to point to my nas but thats probably the most advanced thing I do

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