which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist.

John

So what you're saying is that most of the world will be plunged into non-smart appliances, and people won't discard computers and phones like they're toilet paper, like some kind of frickin' paradise?

alexraffa :unverified:

@blogdiva I suggest an excellent boom from Yanis Varoufakis "technofeudalism" that expands on manu of the topics I read in this thread.

Nicovel0 🍉

@johnzajac maybe it will kill disposable vapes too, truly a return to the dark ages

John Timaeus

@johnzajac @blogdiva

I'm seeing a 5ish year long realignment toward consumer electronics -- after the bubble bursts and the initial economic havoc clears. The primary suppliers will have detooled all the 'user grade' supply chains by the end of 2026.

Getting back to making affordable RAM, performant cpu, and storage that you can buy and practically use as an end user is going to be hard.

If the bubble bursts today, I don't need 10-20 rack units of gpu and power sucking high performance storage.

I need a phone with an unbroken screen, and a laptop with double the cores, memory, and ssd of the one I bought four years ago.

Datacenter gear at discount prices doesn't fit in my backpack.

John Timaeus

@johnzajac @blogdiva

Quite the opposite. Personally owned compute will become the exclusive territory of the rich.

John

@johntimaeus @blogdiva

Which will be useless because most content is created by the non rich

They'll have a whole lotta nothin because no one will make software because it won't make any money. I guess if you think Claude will code all software in the future that's not true, but you'd have to be a rube to believe that.

If personal compute goes away, literally 30% of modern GDP goes with it, probably more because of all the shit that relies on it for logistics and commerce

John

@johntimaeus @blogdiva

Also long before people stop having computers they will start recycling and reusing tech rather than throwing it away.

John

@johntimaeus @blogdiva

There are already groups in every major city that refurbish computers for free and run component libraries. They will simply become ubiquitous

Phones and PCs no longer lose value. People will no longer demand 100x the computing power they actually need. Brick phones will proliferate

The panopticon will...have nothing to look at

FAANG will cease to exist, but so will Palantir and all the other data scrapers. LLMs will fail for lack of published human-made material

mahadevank

@blogdiva well, they will be severely limited, because you can't get on the cloud without a PC of your own anyways, and they have lousy memory hog software so they can't push things up too much.

In the worst case they raise it to the point where its hard to buy exotic hardware. But then, it would create a reverse revolution of open-source thats more hardware optimized.

The tech bros are really, really dumb.

warkolm

@blogdiva I wouldn't attribute malice to their incompetence, but who knows

Havoc BSc MSc 💚

@blogdiva are they out to kill the fediverse too? Server costs are going up because of all this. Is the ultimate aim to price us out of existence?
https://mementomori.social/@rolle/116125657344469470

CockneyLaurie

@blogdiva

It's better than that...

Prevent new high level computers at a competitive price so companies do more of their computing remotely on AI computers.

Sonikku

@blogdiva
Pretty much this

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@blogdiva

And it is what might kill Windows and Microsoft, if people cannot upgrade their hardware to match Windows "upgrades" they will seek OSs that run on less computing power.

Ironic that t takes multiple orders of magnitude more computing power to run a video game about putting a man on the moon than it did to put a man on the moon.

xro

@blogdiva

That was also one of my first reactions, but on reflection I don't think it's accurate.

I think they mainly want to hamper their direct compentation.

The damage to the PC market was originally unintended, but as always, those bros try to exploit all new circumstances to their benefit.

So, yes, they might double down on that now.

Thankfully there are still big Interests aligned with a thriving PC market. Nvidia might have abandoned the consumer but not everybody did yet

xro

@blogdiva
However,

This DOES give us a glimpse into a future, where goods are no longer produced for consumers but only for big tech.

Where the consumer and small businesses will no longer have the option to buy what they need, but will have to make due with whatever scraps are left to buy at unreasonable prices.

Bobo_PK 🦄

@blogdiva maybe the long term plan is to kill all smaller hosters and only be left with a oligopolous hosting market.

craignicol

@blogdiva so like OPEC in the 70s then? That went well

your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

@craignicol and by the same OPEC people. literally. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are behind this AI madness. they just wanna make sure they keep on pumping that petrol and methane.

Wandering Adventure Party

which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist.