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which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist.

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  • JargogglesJ Jargoggles

    @flipper @blogdiva
    Sometimes, I like to imagine a world where we just threw people into a volcano if they tried to do shit like lend the same banana to three people and then claim they had three bananas or sell people bananas that don't exist yet.

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    @jargoggles @blogdiva @flipper See, that’s how you end up with polluted volcanos.

    Dump your billionaires elsewhere! Leave the volcanos alone!

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    • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

      @johnzajac @blogdiva now is the time for right to repair anything with a chip in it

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      @fluffykittycat @johnzajac @blogdiva

      fuck yeah, I didn't expect analog nowhere to be the dystopia we were headed towards

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      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

        @jargoggles @blogdiva @flipper See, that’s how you end up with polluted volcanos.

        Dump your billionaires elsewhere! Leave the volcanos alone!

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        @inthehands @jargoggles @blogdiva @flipper Wouldn't they just vaporize immediately? Wear your respirator!

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        • JohnJ John

          @blogdiva

          Will they manage to kill the PC market? Or will they manage to give birth to tens of thousands of small, local computer recycling, refurbishing, and building companies/centers?

          All of it is going to collapse in on itself. It's just Theranos except instead of a couple billions of dollars it's a couple trillions of dollars.

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          @johnzajac @blogdiva

          Unfortunately, they're monopolizing the supply chains and having them build big industrial equipment.

          Most consumers need consumer gear. We need lawnmowers and hand pushed snowblower. Everything being built for the AI bubble is a 10m wide combine

          You can't put what they're having built under a desk, or in a laptop, or as 512g storage in a thumb drive

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          • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

            RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

            which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

            THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

            THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

            memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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            @blogdiva Oligarchic Technocracy....they just getting started.... soon They'll start buying ''SOULS & ''BODIES'' On the open market

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            • John TimaeusJ John Timaeus

              @johnzajac @blogdiva

              Unfortunately, they're monopolizing the supply chains and having them build big industrial equipment.

              Most consumers need consumer gear. We need lawnmowers and hand pushed snowblower. Everything being built for the AI bubble is a 10m wide combine

              You can't put what they're having built under a desk, or in a laptop, or as 512g storage in a thumb drive

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              #26

              @johntimaeus @blogdiva

              So what you're saying is that most of the world will be plunged into non-smart appliances, and people won't discard computers and phones like they're toilet paper, like some kind of frickin' paradise?

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              • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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                @blogdiva I suggest an excellent boom from Yanis Varoufakis "technofeudalism" that expands on manu of the topics I read in this thread.

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                • JohnJ John

                  @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                  So what you're saying is that most of the world will be plunged into non-smart appliances, and people won't discard computers and phones like they're toilet paper, like some kind of frickin' paradise?

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                  @johnzajac maybe it will kill disposable vapes too, truly a return to the dark ages

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                  • JohnJ John

                    @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                    So what you're saying is that most of the world will be plunged into non-smart appliances, and people won't discard computers and phones like they're toilet paper, like some kind of frickin' paradise?

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                    @johnzajac @blogdiva

                    I'm seeing a 5ish year long realignment toward consumer electronics -- after the bubble bursts and the initial economic havoc clears. The primary suppliers will have detooled all the 'user grade' supply chains by the end of 2026.

                    Getting back to making affordable RAM, performant cpu, and storage that you can buy and practically use as an end user is going to be hard.

                    If the bubble bursts today, I don't need 10-20 rack units of gpu and power sucking high performance storage.

                    I need a phone with an unbroken screen, and a laptop with double the cores, memory, and ssd of the one I bought four years ago.

                    Datacenter gear at discount prices doesn't fit in my backpack.

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                    • JohnJ John

                      @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                      So what you're saying is that most of the world will be plunged into non-smart appliances, and people won't discard computers and phones like they're toilet paper, like some kind of frickin' paradise?

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                      @johnzajac @blogdiva

                      Quite the opposite. Personally owned compute will become the exclusive territory of the rich.

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                      • John TimaeusJ John Timaeus

                        @johnzajac @blogdiva

                        Quite the opposite. Personally owned compute will become the exclusive territory of the rich.

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                        @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                        Which will be useless because most content is created by the non rich

                        They'll have a whole lotta nothin because no one will make software because it won't make any money. I guess if you think Claude will code all software in the future that's not true, but you'd have to be a rube to believe that.

                        If personal compute goes away, literally 30% of modern GDP goes with it, probably more because of all the shit that relies on it for logistics and commerce

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                        • JohnJ John

                          @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                          Which will be useless because most content is created by the non rich

                          They'll have a whole lotta nothin because no one will make software because it won't make any money. I guess if you think Claude will code all software in the future that's not true, but you'd have to be a rube to believe that.

                          If personal compute goes away, literally 30% of modern GDP goes with it, probably more because of all the shit that relies on it for logistics and commerce

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                          @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                          Also long before people stop having computers they will start recycling and reusing tech rather than throwing it away.

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                          • JohnJ John

                            @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                            Also long before people stop having computers they will start recycling and reusing tech rather than throwing it away.

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                            @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                            There are already groups in every major city that refurbish computers for free and run component libraries. They will simply become ubiquitous

                            Phones and PCs no longer lose value. People will no longer demand 100x the computing power they actually need. Brick phones will proliferate

                            The panopticon will...have nothing to look at

                            FAANG will cease to exist, but so will Palantir and all the other data scrapers. LLMs will fail for lack of published human-made material

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                            • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                              RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                              which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                              THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                              THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                              memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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                              @blogdiva well, they will be severely limited, because you can't get on the cloud without a PC of your own anyways, and they have lousy memory hog software so they can't push things up too much.

                              In the worst case they raise it to the point where its hard to buy exotic hardware. But then, it would create a reverse revolution of open-source thats more hardware optimized.

                              The tech bros are really, really dumb.

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                              • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                                RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                                which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                                THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                                THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                                memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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                                @blogdiva I wouldn't attribute malice to their incompetence, but who knows

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                                • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                                  RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                                  which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                                  THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                                  THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                                  memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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                                  @blogdiva are they out to kill the fediverse too? Server costs are going up because of all this. Is the ultimate aim to price us out of existence?
                                  https://mementomori.social/@rolle/116125657344469470

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                                  • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                                    RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                                    which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                                    THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                                    THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                                    memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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                                    @blogdiva

                                    It's better than that...

                                    Prevent new high level computers at a competitive price so companies do more of their computing remotely on AI computers.

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                                    • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                                      RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                                      which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                                      THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                                      THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                                      memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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                                      @blogdiva
                                      Pretty much this

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                                      • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                                        RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                                        which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                                        THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                                        THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                                        memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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                                        @blogdiva

                                        And it is what might kill Windows and Microsoft, if people cannot upgrade their hardware to match Windows "upgrades" they will seek OSs that run on less computing power.

                                        Ironic that t takes multiple orders of magnitude more computing power to run a video game about putting a man on the moon than it did to put a man on the moon.

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                                        • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                                          RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                                          which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                                          THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                                          THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                                          memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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                                          @blogdiva

                                          That was also one of my first reactions, but on reflection I don't think it's accurate.

                                          I think they mainly want to hamper their direct compentation.

                                          The damage to the PC market was originally unintended, but as always, those bros try to exploit all new circumstances to their benefit.

                                          So, yes, they might double down on that now.

                                          Thankfully there are still big Interests aligned with a thriving PC market. Nvidia might have abandoned the consumer but not everybody did yet

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