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  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

    "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

    THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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    @sundogplanets did someone just finish reading @cstross 's _accelerando_ and decide it wasn't featuring future earth as a dystopia?

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    • PalmAndNeedleP PalmAndNeedle

      @deborahh @sundogplanets long at times. And kinda weirdly chunked up. But enjoyable

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      @PalmAndNeedle @deborahh @sundogplanets I was a big fan but 7 Eves turned me off: dopey biological determinism leading to sexism & racism...

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      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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        In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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        Prof. Sam Lawler

        If I'm lucky I'll be gone before they start advertising.

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        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

          What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

          Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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          SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

          In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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          PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

          Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
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          @sundogplanets That's something like 17,000 falcon 9 launches... they did 606 last year.

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          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

            "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

            THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

            Stanley Black-DeckerP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @sundogplanets Imagine being familiar with the Kardashev scale but unfamiliar with Kessler syndrome

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            • Slop Kitty Appreciates YouJ Slop Kitty Appreciates You

              @sundogplanets

              Bezos: Oh yeah? Well AWS will put TWO million data centers in orbit!

              China: Let 5 million space data centers bloom!

              Musk: Well, then SpaceX will put TEN million centers in orbit!

              Bezos: Fine! ELEVENTY million AWS centers!

              Musk: Hah! TWELVETY million SpaceX centers! Each with a cool robot!

              Bezos: Meh-meh-meh-robot-meh. Amazon has robots.

              Musk: But not COOL robots.

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              @jakebrake There's a German comic "Elon & Jeff on Mars" that goes like this (https://www.carlsen.de/hardcover/elon-jeff-mars/978-3-551-80572-0)

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              • George BG George B

                @sundogplanets

                It's not April fools but it is the day after he appeared in the Epstein files in the most embarrassing way possible

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                Elmo is too mouthy... They had to cut him loose.

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                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                  "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                  THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                  #136

                  @sundogplanets
                  Seems they're (intentionally?) confusing Kardashiev and Kessler

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                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                    What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                    Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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                    SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                    In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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                    #137

                    @sundogplanets if they speak of datacenters - I imagine them to be much larger than starlink satellites and they would need a lot of energy. I guess they will have huge solar panels.

                    This is bat-shit crazy if true.

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                    • ChancerubbageC Chancerubbage

                      @sundogplanets @Barbramon1

                      Typical SpaceX Starlink communications satellites are roughly the size of a table or small car, weighing between 570 lbs (260 kg) for earlier models and up to 1,630+ lbs (740+ kg) for newer "V2 Mini" versions. They measure approximately 2.8 to 3.2 meters long, 1.4 to 1.6 meters wide, and are thin, designed for flat-packing in Falcon 9 rockets.

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                      @Chancerubbage @sundogplanets @Barbramon1 Most importantly, there are far too many of them already.

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                      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                        Link Preview Image
                        SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                        In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

                        favicon

                        PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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                        @sundogplanets@mastodon.social It's utterly batshit insane.

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                        • PatrickP Patrick

                          @sundogplanets, why is this a problem? Datacenters in space would eliminate a lot of problems like access to free solar energy, cooling, etc.

                          For example, datacenters are being constructed with massive discounts by councils/municipals and in turn, water and electricity bill of residential area gets higher to pay that offset of costs.

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                          @ppulfer@mastodon.ie @sundogplanets@mastodon.social Um, no. Not really.

                          Granted, in an orbit with the right inclination, you can get continuous sunlight, and that sunlight is several times more intense than at ground level. So power can be relatively abundant.

                          However, a ground-based datacenter can use conductive and convective cooling, both of which can be highly efficient at removing heat even at only moderate temperatures. In space the
                          only mechanism you have, in the end, is radiative cooling... and the physics of black-body radiation are such that a datacenter satellite that hasn't yet fried every semiconductor within it simply isn't hot enough to efficiently radiate as much heat as it's going to generate.

                          Relatively low-power communications satellites are one thing. We've proven that works. We've proven we can cool astronomical instruments to their optimal working temperatures, though it sometimes takes some very clever solutions. But
                          datacenters in satellites? That's madness.

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                          • Comrade WeezW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @sahak do you know what happens when there's too many satellites in orbit? Short answer: much fewer satellites in orbit. Gewgle Kessler Syndrome @sundogplanets

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                            • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                              @sundogplanets

                              If you understand anything about the giant CF of data centers right now this is just the stupidest idea ever.

                              First, the lifespan of these chips runs on the order of 18 months before they are considered obsolete and the chips fry very quickly so there is a very high failure rate.

                              Also, the data centers power is determined by the networking of all the components in the data center.

                              Ask yourself if RF communication broadcast between satellites can work like wires

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                              @GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai @sundogplanets@mastodon.social Hint: Ask yourself why datacenters use massive bundles of wired or fiber connections internally rather than WiFi.

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                              • PatrickP Patrick

                                @sundogplanets, why is this a problem? Datacenters in space would eliminate a lot of problems like access to free solar energy, cooling, etc.

                                For example, datacenters are being constructed with massive discounts by councils/municipals and in turn, water and electricity bill of residential area gets higher to pay that offset of costs.

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                                @ppulfer #cough Kessler Syndrome @sundogplanets

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                                • Benjamin D. HutchinsZ Benjamin D. Hutchins

                                  @sundogplanets ... what the fuck does that even mean? I know I could search for it, but I'm not sure I want that in my search history.

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                                  @zgryphon @sundogplanets

                                  The radio astronomer Nikolai Kardashev developed a scale describing hypothetical aliens by the amount of energy they used as a guide for what SETI searches could and could not find.

                                  A "Kardashev II" level would involve using the entire energy output of the Sun by dismantling planets and turning them into solar panels.

                                  Which has no resemblance to this particular bit of vaporware.

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                                  • CarolynC Carolyn

                                    @sundogplanets The FCC is corrupt. What I don’t understand is how US gets to decide this for the world. 😞

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                                    @CStamp @sundogplanets They don't. Anyone can shoot anything into space if they can afford it. No one governs space. What he needs is permission to use the air waves. The section is highlighted in the attached image.

                                    I am not defending him (I think he is a giant child molesting, aspie supremacist, queef) I just thought that in this current era of disinfo someone should step in an clear up things.

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                                    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                      What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                      Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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                                      SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                                      In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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                                      @sundogplanets this is by far the stupidest thing I've heard in this dystopian mess Elon and friends are plunging us in.

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                                      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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                                        SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                                        In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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                                        PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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                                        @sundogplanets
                                        holy fuck. * groan *

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                                        • Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆF Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆ

                                          @CStamp @sundogplanets They don't. Anyone can shoot anything into space if they can afford it. No one governs space. What he needs is permission to use the air waves. The section is highlighted in the attached image.

                                          I am not defending him (I think he is a giant child molesting, aspie supremacist, queef) I just thought that in this current era of disinfo someone should step in an clear up things.

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                                          @fiend_unpleasant @sundogplanets that doesn’t mean it’s not wrong. They are possibly damaging our atmosphere, they ARE ruining our night sky, they are increasing risk of damage to people when they fall out of the sky, they are risking damage to flights beyond our atmosphere…

                                          That one government has the right to speak for all of us is crap.

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