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  • PatrickP Patrick

    @utf_7 @troed @sundogplanets, my thoughts are on the biggest resource consumption of a datacenter: Cooling and Energy, which is very taxing right now on our existing capabilities.

    We'd shift from constant CO2 emitting energy consumption on earth to solar in space and move away from using fresh water for cooling, which is becoming more and more scarce.

    Troed SångbergT This user is from outside of this forum
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    @ppulfer

    The point is that it's _really difficult_ to remove heat in space. Those datacenters will need to run at _much_ slower speeds than datacenters on Earth.

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    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

      What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

      Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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      SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

      In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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      TomT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #123

      @sundogplanets did they solved the cooling problem?

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      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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        SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

        In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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        Oliver SchafeldO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #124

        Does anyone have estimates how much #Starlink stock might be earmarked for #Trump loyalists?

        #corruption #maga

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        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

          What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

          Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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          SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

          In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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          Comrade WeezW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @sundogplanets KESSLER NOW

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          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

            "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

            THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

            Benjamin D. HutchinsZ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #126

            @sundogplanets ... what the fuck does that even mean? I know I could search for it, but I'm not sure I want that in my search history.

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            • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

              What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

              Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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              SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

              In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

              favicon

              PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

              George BG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #127

              @sundogplanets

              It's not April fools but it is the day after he appeared in the Epstein files in the most embarrassing way possible

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              • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

                Sam Oldman 🐀S This user is from outside of this forum
                Sam Oldman 🐀S This user is from outside of this forum
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                #128

                @sundogplanets I thought the Dyson sphere was supposed to go around the Sun, not around the Earth ...

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                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                  "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                  THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

                  draNgNonD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #129

                  @sundogplanets did someone just finish reading @cstross 's _accelerando_ and decide it wasn't featuring future earth as a dystopia?

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                  • PalmAndNeedleP PalmAndNeedle

                    @deborahh @sundogplanets long at times. And kinda weirdly chunked up. But enjoyable

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                    @PalmAndNeedle @deborahh @sundogplanets I was a big fan but 7 Eves turned me off: dopey biological determinism leading to sexism & racism...

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                    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                      What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                      Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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                      SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                      In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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                      PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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                      Prof. Sam Lawler

                      If I'm lucky I'll be gone before they start advertising.

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                      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                        Link Preview Image
                        SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                        In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

                        favicon

                        PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

                        Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #132

                        @sundogplanets That's something like 17,000 falcon 9 launches... they did 606 last year.

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                        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                          "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                          THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

                          Stanley Black-DeckerP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @sundogplanets Imagine being familiar with the Kardashev scale but unfamiliar with Kessler syndrome

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                          • Slop Kitty Appreciates YouJ Slop Kitty Appreciates You

                            @sundogplanets

                            Bezos: Oh yeah? Well AWS will put TWO million data centers in orbit!

                            China: Let 5 million space data centers bloom!

                            Musk: Well, then SpaceX will put TEN million centers in orbit!

                            Bezos: Fine! ELEVENTY million AWS centers!

                            Musk: Hah! TWELVETY million SpaceX centers! Each with a cool robot!

                            Bezos: Meh-meh-meh-robot-meh. Amazon has robots.

                            Musk: But not COOL robots.

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                            @jakebrake There's a German comic "Elon & Jeff on Mars" that goes like this (https://www.carlsen.de/hardcover/elon-jeff-mars/978-3-551-80572-0)

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                            • George BG George B

                              @sundogplanets

                              It's not April fools but it is the day after he appeared in the Epstein files in the most embarrassing way possible

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                              Elmo is too mouthy... They had to cut him loose.

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                              • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                                THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                                @sundogplanets
                                Seems they're (intentionally?) confusing Kardashiev and Kessler

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                                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                  What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                  Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                                  In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

                                  favicon

                                  PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

                                  FloD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #137

                                  @sundogplanets if they speak of datacenters - I imagine them to be much larger than starlink satellites and they would need a lot of energy. I guess they will have huge solar panels.

                                  This is bat-shit crazy if true.

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                                  • ChancerubbageC Chancerubbage

                                    @sundogplanets @Barbramon1

                                    Typical SpaceX Starlink communications satellites are roughly the size of a table or small car, weighing between 570 lbs (260 kg) for earlier models and up to 1,630+ lbs (740+ kg) for newer "V2 Mini" versions. They measure approximately 2.8 to 3.2 meters long, 1.4 to 1.6 meters wide, and are thin, designed for flat-packing in Falcon 9 rockets.

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                                    @Chancerubbage @sundogplanets @Barbramon1 Most importantly, there are far too many of them already.

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                                    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                      What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                      Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                                      In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

                                      favicon

                                      PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

                                      Sean FenianZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @sundogplanets@mastodon.social It's utterly batshit insane.

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                                      • PatrickP Patrick

                                        @sundogplanets, why is this a problem? Datacenters in space would eliminate a lot of problems like access to free solar energy, cooling, etc.

                                        For example, datacenters are being constructed with massive discounts by councils/municipals and in turn, water and electricity bill of residential area gets higher to pay that offset of costs.

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                                        @ppulfer@mastodon.ie @sundogplanets@mastodon.social Um, no. Not really.

                                        Granted, in an orbit with the right inclination, you can get continuous sunlight, and that sunlight is several times more intense than at ground level. So power can be relatively abundant.

                                        However, a ground-based datacenter can use conductive and convective cooling, both of which can be highly efficient at removing heat even at only moderate temperatures. In space the
                                        only mechanism you have, in the end, is radiative cooling... and the physics of black-body radiation are such that a datacenter satellite that hasn't yet fried every semiconductor within it simply isn't hot enough to efficiently radiate as much heat as it's going to generate.

                                        Relatively low-power communications satellites are one thing. We've proven that works. We've proven we can cool astronomical instruments to their optimal working temperatures, though it sometimes takes some very clever solutions. But
                                        datacenters in satellites? That's madness.

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                                        • Comrade WeezW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @sahak do you know what happens when there's too many satellites in orbit? Short answer: much fewer satellites in orbit. Gewgle Kessler Syndrome @sundogplanets

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