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#Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state.

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  • WesDymW WesDym

    @len Right, though I'll add a very critical caveat. If you live in the US, there are comparatively safer or less safe states. But you cannot enter ANY part of the US without interacting with the same people who gunned down two of our own citizens in Minnesota. And they've already bagged a lot of visitors, and will continue to, often on little or no pretext.

    DON'T COME TO THE US. It is not safe to enter our country. Stay away. For your own safety.

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    @wesdym I was very specifically speaking about asylum claims from the US to the EU, /not/ about travel advisories to the US.
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    • πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦οΈ badhairdayW πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦οΈ badhairday

      @peterbrown

      True enough.

      I can imagine that some people's licenses may be coming up for renewal, and they want to wait for that to happen before getting a new license. If it's more than a year before renewal, I suppose they could get the license changed and renewed at the same time, paying a pro-rated amount to cover whatever time is left on the current license, plus the cost for the new one. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

      Just an idea.

      @alice

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      @weirdone Under this law, any DL that has a gender marker different from your birth certificate becomes invalid TODAY. Use of it incurs a fine, and can also include jail time. It also incurs an automatic 90-day suspension, and if you violate that, a mandatory minimum 5 days in jail.

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        #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

        The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

        Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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        #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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        @alice

        Violation of the anti-discrimination civil rights act, guess who goes to jail passing this BS, Kansas lawmakers, NOW!

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        • FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

          @alice

          It's weird seeing all the far right "15 minute city" conspiracy theories (which claim alternatives to cars restrict people's freedom) and now the far right is specifically using cars to restrict people's freedoms.

          It's like yet another accusation being a confession. All the conspiratorial lies they told about public transport being an instrument of control, they are now actually doing themselves with cars.

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          @FediThing This is more about the DL as personal ID, which is ubiquitous in the US. We use our DLs as ID all the time -- liquor store, club, bank, etc. This is about shaming and humiliating a disfavoured group, and making just living as hard as possible. And, ultimately, discouraging trans people from voting, where ID is also required.

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          • Danni StormD Danni Storm

            @Thijs_Goverde @alice A fire our country voted to start 😞. This may be Kansas but they are only emboldened to do this because of Trump and Trump 2.0. The world wasnt great but the winds were in the right direction before this dipshit caused a wave of incel men to come out of the limp woodwork, grab for power, and fund this kind of garbage. SCOTUS would not be the conservative swamp it is now and this law would be struck down by any reasonable court system, even ithe Kansas bill became law in that alternate reality. I'm embarrassed to be from the US and all I can say is I voted against Trump in all three cycles (Clinton, Biden, Harris). Obviously, enough people were lost to reason and truth to vote this slime of a reality into existence (TWICE!!!).

            My heart goes out to the trans folx in KS and other places with repressive, hateful legislatives.

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            @danni_storm He didn't cause it. He's the symptom, not the cause. This wasn't a coup. 77M US voters agreed with this, and most of those still do. They also elected the congressional majority that not only won't stop it, but actively supports it, and defends the corrupt federal judiciary that mostly supports it, too (many of whom they installed). This is a systemic crisis of our society with a very long history, not the crimes of one stupid old man.

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            • WesDymW WesDym

              @retrimental I'm not sure how you're getting 'tax' out of this. Forfeiture (the legal term for payment of a fine) is the very least of the potential consequences here. 1st offence is also 90 days suspension, and if you violate that it's minimum 5 days in jail. They can also jail you for this at any level. A 'tax' would be quaint next to that.

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              @wesdym @retrimental The "tax" here is that you'll have to pay for a new license. Plus you have to take public or have someone drive you there, and the wait, it's all a tax. I can't find anything on fees via search.

              Shame if the Kansas Dept of Revenue gets a lot of input--

              Office Location

              Zibell Building
              300 SW 29th Street
              Topeka, KS 66611

              Mailing Address

              Driver's Licensing
              P.O. Box 2188
              Topeka, KS 66601-2188

              Telephone (available Monday through Friday, 8:00 am to 4:00 pm)

              785-296-3671

              Fax

              785-296-0691

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                #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                @alice
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                  @munin and you *know* once they're making solid progress wiping out trans folx and immigrants, they'll start into Black folx, women, and the rest of the queers.

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                  @alice @munin AND cishet white males who don't toe their ideological line. White privilege, although real, can confer a wholly illusory sense of absolute invulnerability.

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                  • SΓ©rgio Pereira :rainbowcheck:S SΓ©rgio Pereira :rainbowcheck:

                    @FediThing @alice every time they acuse some group of something it is a self report on their own intentions it seems.

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                    @sergioedup πŸ’― πŸ‘† @FediThing @alice

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                      #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                      The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                      Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                      #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                      @alice@lgbtqia.space
                      Why the US people haven't physically dragged tRump and his sycophants from the White House and hanged them yet is beyond me! He is literally killing people!

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                        #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                        The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                        Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                        "The legislature did not include a grace period."

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                        Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

                        The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

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                        #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                        @alice One more tick on the 1930s Nazi path check list I see. I wish there was a hell for them to burn in one day.

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                        • G Goodlucksil

                          @alice such a stupid thing to fixate into. What have trans people done to them? What economical benefit is in for... Anyone?

                          There are a million things that would be much much more useful economically than alienating a part of the population from using your services.

                          If USA wants to be a capitalist oligarchy, USA should correctly corrupt itself.

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                          @Goodlucksil the architects of this sort of thinking don't actually care about trans people one way or the other. This is a classic wedge issue just like abortion has been.

                          The solution to this problem, like every other mind-bending problem in the United States, starts with campaign finance reform. The path from there is unfortunately long and fraught with difficulties.

                          @alice

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                            #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                            The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                            Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                            #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                            @alice So: you drive to turn in your license *before* it is invalid. But now you can't drive *home* ....

                            Guess they can be arrested for loitering, then. Land of brave and home of the whatsits?

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                              @alice

                              I'm sure they'll start in immediately. Every time they have 'success' they push further the sleazy fucks.

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                              @munin @alice There's a certain poem that springs to mind 😞

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                              • Fi πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈM Fi πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

                                @alice

                                I'm sure they'll start in immediately. Every time they have 'success' they push further the sleazy fucks.

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                                @munin
                                How can they be stopped?

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                                  #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                                  The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                                  Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                                  #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                                  @alice considering distances & (lack of)infrastructure of public transport in USamerica, this means most will not be able to legally show up for work or get food. So not only is this fascist controll & discrimination it takes away their ability to live. Wow. USA has become worse than any 3rd world rogue state. A place to avoid as a sane person, only good for child abuser, rapists & drug lords.

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                                    @munin and you *know* once they're making solid progress wiping out trans folx and immigrants, they'll start into Black folx, women, and the rest of the queers.

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                                    @alice
                                    Many people don't strive to end this until they're direct victims There are many black folks and immigrants that think it's non of their business. What can be done to stop them?

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                                      #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                                      The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                                      Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                                      #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                                      @alice oh look, another state I'll never step foot into ever again. Another "I told ya so" for my family who keep saying I'm overreacting.

                                      First it's POC and trans people. Guess who's next?

                                      And I'm gonna keep saying this next part till my cassandra syndrome kills me:
                                      Voting won't get us out of this. It's too late. Action must be done. Nobody voted Hitler out of office. Ballots didn't remove Mussolini from power. Y'all are gonna get your hands dirty before the end. You've been warned.

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                                      • JΓΌrgen HubertJ JΓΌrgen Hubert

                                        @swaldman @alice

                                        Personally, I would recommend Americans who need to escape to Europe to move there via a student visa. Those are much easier to get, and you will have a much better status - you can get part-time jobs with them.

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                                        @juergen_hubert @swaldman @alice USAmericans need to stay and clean up the mess they created for themselves. There isn't enough room in Europe to host half their population. USAmericans have not done enough to prevent this, now they need to get up their lazy asses & stop this desaster. You don't want to hear this I am sure, yet this is the reality.

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                                          #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                                          The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                                          Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                                          #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                                          @alice Republicans: if it's what the German government did with "undesirables" circa 1935, sounds great!

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