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  • julianJ julian

    v0.7.0 of the Push Notification plugin has been released

    • Notification related service worker code that was initially included in v4 core is now served by the web-push plugin directly, allowing v3.x compatibility.
    • Compatibility updated from v4 to v3.10.x
      • Meaning if you want to try this out on your existing NodeBB, you can do so by either waiting for v3.10.0, or by updating to the latest commit on the develop branch
    phenomlabP This user is from outside of this forum
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    phenomlab
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    #24

    julian when does 3.10 come out? 😁

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    • phenomlabP phenomlab

      julian when does 3.10 come out? 😁

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      julian
      wrote on last edited by
      #25

      phenomlab Right now šŸ˜†

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      • julianJ julian

        phenomlab Right now šŸ˜†

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        phenomlab
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        #26

        julian Hmm - still not working for me… šŸ˜ž

        EDIT - works on my Android phone, but not on my PC - guessing it’s likely security software. EDIT 2 - suspicion confirmed. It’s caused by NordVPN. If running, the push notification doesn’t work - if disabled, it works fine.

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        • phenomlabP phenomlab

          julian Hmm - still not working for me… šŸ˜ž

          EDIT - works on my Android phone, but not on my PC - guessing it’s likely security software. EDIT 2 - suspicion confirmed. It’s caused by NordVPN. If running, the push notification doesn’t work - if disabled, it works fine.

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          julian
          wrote on last edited by
          #27

          phenomlab said in Native Push Notifications Support for NodeBB: > NordVPN

          Thanks for closing the loop! Kind of annoying that NordVPN blocks them…

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          • julianJ julian

            phenomlab said in Native Push Notifications Support for NodeBB: > NordVPN

            Thanks for closing the loop! Kind of annoying that NordVPN blocks them…

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            phenomlab
            wrote on last edited by
            #28

            julian Yes, very, and their support isn’t up to much either in the sense of wanting to fix it. I’ve had to change my VPN usage from machine level (which I prefer) to browser level - as long as the internet traffic is secured, that’s good enough for the time being.

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            • phenomlabP phenomlab

              julian Yes, very, and their support isn’t up to much either in the sense of wanting to fix it. I’ve had to change my VPN usage from machine level (which I prefer) to browser level - as long as the internet traffic is secured, that’s good enough for the time being.

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              julian
              wrote on last edited by
              #29

              phenomlab curious, was it also blocking push notifications from this site as well?

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              • julianJ julian

                phenomlab curious, was it also blocking push notifications from this site as well?

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                phenomlab
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                #30

                julian yes

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                • julianJ julian

                  v0.7.0 of the Push Notification plugin has been released

                  • Notification related service worker code that was initially included in v4 core is now served by the web-push plugin directly, allowing v3.x compatibility.
                  • Compatibility updated from v4 to v3.10.x
                    • Meaning if you want to try this out on your existing NodeBB, you can do so by either waiting for v3.10.0, or by updating to the latest commit on the develop branch
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                  dave1904
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #31

                  julian said in Native Push Notifications Support for NodeBB: > you can do so by either waiting for v3.10.0

                  Hi,

                  I’m on 3.10.0 but still see the ntfy notification plugin. Are native push notifications available if updating to current version?

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                  • dave1904D dave1904

                    julian said in Native Push Notifications Support for NodeBB: > you can do so by either waiting for v3.10.0

                    Hi,

                    I’m on 3.10.0 but still see the ntfy notification plugin. Are native push notifications available if updating to current version?

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                    phenomlab
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                    #32

                    dave1904 it’s part of core - have a look under /me/web-push. If you use this, then you’ll need to disable ntfy

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                    • julianJ julian

                      Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous…

                      1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that’s the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
                      2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
                      3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
                      4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

                      Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

                      So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

                      To enable them, simply navigate over to the ā€œPush Notificationsā€ menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

                      6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

                      So, let’s dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

                      The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

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                      dave1904
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #33

                      To use the native notifications i have to disable ntfy first?

                      Edit: After disabling there are no notifications settings under user settings. So I guess I have to update the software

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                      • dave1904D dave1904

                        To use the native notifications i have to disable ntfy first?

                        Edit: After disabling there are no notifications settings under user settings. So I guess I have to update the software

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                        phenomlab
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #34

                        dave1904 sorry. It’s not core. You need to install nodebb-plugin-web-push and then you’ll see the section I mentioned previously.

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                        • julianJ julian

                          Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous…

                          1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that’s the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
                          2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
                          3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
                          4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

                          Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

                          So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

                          To enable them, simply navigate over to the ā€œPush Notificationsā€ menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

                          6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

                          So, let’s dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

                          The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

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                          dave1904
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #35

                          phenomlab found the plugin, thanks!

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                          • julianJ julian

                            Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous…

                            1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that’s the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
                            2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
                            3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
                            4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

                            Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

                            So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

                            To enable them, simply navigate over to the ā€œPush Notificationsā€ menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

                            6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

                            So, let’s dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

                            The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

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                            Pankaj Soni
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                            This requires me to toggle this on by going to my user’s profile. is there a way this can be made default ā€˜on’ for all users on platform?

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                            • Pankaj SoniP Pankaj Soni

                              This requires me to toggle this on by going to my user’s profile. is there a way this can be made default ā€˜on’ for all users on platform?

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                              julian
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #37

                              Pankaj-Soni yes and no… the enabling of the push notifications requires a discrete user action — the user has to actually press the switch to enable notifications.

                              There are ways we can advertise this to end users, so I will look into adding those soon. For now, users will have to go into their user settings to enable push notifications.

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                              • julianJ julian

                                Pankaj-Soni yes and no… the enabling of the push notifications requires a discrete user action — the user has to actually press the switch to enable notifications.

                                There are ways we can advertise this to end users, so I will look into adding those soon. For now, users will have to go into their user settings to enable push notifications.

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                                bh4 tech
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                                #38

                                julian Just like pankaj-soni , I too would like to have push notifications on by default

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                                • julianJ julian

                                  Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous…

                                  1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that’s the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
                                  2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
                                  3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
                                  4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

                                  Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

                                  So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

                                  To enable them, simply navigate over to the ā€œPush Notificationsā€ menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

                                  6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

                                  So, let’s dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

                                  The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

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                                  D1re_W0lf
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                                  #39

                                  Hi. Just to be certain, push notifications still don’t work on iOS under NodeBB 4.4.4 with nodebb-plugin-web-push 0.7.4, right?

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                                    julian
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                                    D1re_W0lf mmm it should work but we don’t have Apple devices to test against…

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                                      D1re_W0lf Although I don’t have an iOS device, but according to docs,on iOS web push notifications work on only those sites which have been added to home screen. So, add this site to home screen and check after few hours.

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                                        D1re_W0lf Although I don’t have an iOS device, but according to docs,on iOS web push notifications work on only those sites which have been added to home screen. So, add this site to home screen and check after few hours.

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                                        julian
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                                        bh4-tech that’s good to know, thank you!

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                                          I checked logs: Sever start with log: info: [plugins/web-push] VAPID keys OK.

                                          Nodebb: 4.4.3 Plugin: nodebb-plugin-web-push 0.7.4

                                          it works on: Desktop + Android But I don’t have any permission request popup to enable notifications for Nodebb on Safari Mobile and iOS I tried also with homescreen app in iOS

                                          Can anyone help me? julian maybe it is worth to check this behavior in Browserstack?

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