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  • julianJ julian

    Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous…

    1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that’s the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
    2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
    3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
    4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

    Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

    So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

    To enable them, simply navigate over to the “Push Notifications” menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

    6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

    So, let’s dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

    The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

    dave1904D This user is from outside of this forum
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    dave1904
    wrote on last edited by
    #33

    To use the native notifications i have to disable ntfy first?

    Edit: After disabling there are no notifications settings under user settings. So I guess I have to update the software

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    • dave1904D dave1904

      To use the native notifications i have to disable ntfy first?

      Edit: After disabling there are no notifications settings under user settings. So I guess I have to update the software

      phenomlabP This user is from outside of this forum
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      phenomlab
      wrote on last edited by
      #34

      dave1904 sorry. It’s not core. You need to install nodebb-plugin-web-push and then you’ll see the section I mentioned previously.

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      • julianJ julian

        Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous…

        1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that’s the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
        2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
        3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
        4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

        Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

        So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

        To enable them, simply navigate over to the “Push Notifications” menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

        6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

        So, let’s dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

        The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

        dave1904D This user is from outside of this forum
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        dave1904
        wrote on last edited by
        #35

        phenomlab found the plugin, thanks!

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        • julianJ julian

          Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous…

          1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that’s the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
          2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
          3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
          4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

          Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

          So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

          To enable them, simply navigate over to the “Push Notifications” menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

          6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

          So, let’s dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

          The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

          Pankaj SoniP This user is from outside of this forum
          Pankaj SoniP This user is from outside of this forum
          Pankaj Soni
          wrote on last edited by
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          This requires me to toggle this on by going to my user’s profile. is there a way this can be made default ‘on’ for all users on platform?

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          • Pankaj SoniP Pankaj Soni

            This requires me to toggle this on by going to my user’s profile. is there a way this can be made default ‘on’ for all users on platform?

            julianJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            julian
            wrote on last edited by
            #37

            Pankaj-Soni yes and no… the enabling of the push notifications requires a discrete user action — the user has to actually press the switch to enable notifications.

            There are ways we can advertise this to end users, so I will look into adding those soon. For now, users will have to go into their user settings to enable push notifications.

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            • julianJ julian

              Pankaj-Soni yes and no… the enabling of the push notifications requires a discrete user action — the user has to actually press the switch to enable notifications.

              There are ways we can advertise this to end users, so I will look into adding those soon. For now, users will have to go into their user settings to enable push notifications.

              bh4 techB This user is from outside of this forum
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              bh4 tech
              wrote on last edited by
              #38

              julian Just like pankaj-soni , I too would like to have push notifications on by default

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              • julianJ julian

                Our relationship with push notifications has been rather circuitous…

                1. First Andrew (psychobunny) tried plain desktop notifications via the Notification API (that’s the desktop notifications plugin), but notification delivery stopped when you closed your browser.
                2. Then I wrote the PushBullet plugin, but they went from free to paid and that went out the window
                3. Around that time I wrote the Firebase plugin, which was a dead end because there was no iOS support.
                4. I then wrote the ntfy plugin, which works really well, but does rely on a freemium third-party service and app (written by @binwiederhier@discuss.ntfy.sh)

                Thanks to some recent discussion from crazycells and bh4-tech, I learned that the Push API had reached general availability across most modern browsers. In fact, this actually happened over a year ago, so compatibility should be even better.

                So I set about working on yet another push notifications plugin, hopefully for the last time, and this time using the native Push API on the client-side.

                To enable them, simply navigate over to the “Push Notifications” menu item in your user profile, and flip the switch.

                6da06989-f902-492b-866f-14c39b34a9ca-image.png

                So, let’s dogfood! I de-activated the ntfy plugin on this site and activated the web-push plugin so you can try it out right now.

                The plugin is in the proof-of-concept phase, so there might (read: most definitely will be) issues. Please let me know any you find here.

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                D1re_W0lf
                wrote on last edited by
                #39

                Hi. Just to be certain, push notifications still don’t work on iOS under NodeBB 4.4.4 with nodebb-plugin-web-push 0.7.4, right?

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                  julian
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #40

                  D1re_W0lf mmm it should work but we don’t have Apple devices to test against…

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                    bh4 tech
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                    D1re_W0lf Although I don’t have an iOS device, but according to docs,on iOS web push notifications work on only those sites which have been added to home screen. So, add this site to home screen and check after few hours.

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                    • bh4 techB bh4 tech

                      D1re_W0lf Although I don’t have an iOS device, but according to docs,on iOS web push notifications work on only those sites which have been added to home screen. So, add this site to home screen and check after few hours.

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                      julian
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #42

                      bh4-tech that’s good to know, thank you!

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                        #43

                        I checked logs: Sever start with log: info: [plugins/web-push] VAPID keys OK.

                        Nodebb: 4.4.3 Plugin: nodebb-plugin-web-push 0.7.4

                        it works on: Desktop + Android But I don’t have any permission request popup to enable notifications for Nodebb on Safari Mobile and iOS I tried also with homescreen app in iOS

                        Can anyone help me? julian maybe it is worth to check this behavior in Browserstack?

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                          julian
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                          Paweł said in Native Push Notifications Support for NodeBB: > julian maybe it is worth to check this behavior in Browserstack?

                          Yes, this is a good idea 🙂 does browser stack have support for push notifications?

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                            puckers
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                            julian it does

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                              Yes Browserstack use real devices - https://www.browserstack.com/guide/test-push-notifications-on-ios-devices

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                                D1re_W0lf
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                                bh4-tech I’ll try that. Thank you.

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                                  D1re_W0lf
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                                  bh4-tech Hi gain. Apologies for the long delay in replaying. I tried to activate on my iPhone without any luck. I used Safari, Chrome, and Vivaldi both directly and to “install” as a PWA, but none of it worked.

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                                    D1re_W0lf does it work if you add the app to the home screen?

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