Aside from the Jewish (the only victims popularly remembered) and certain individuals... *every* German alive at that time is assumed to have been complicit in the horrors of Nazi Germany.

I frankly wonder sometimes if these protests are less about accomplishing anything, and more about *being seen doing something* whether it moves the needle or not, as a social self-defense effort. Being able to avoid accusations of complicity.

@pteryx I can only guess your emotional state based on what I know of you, but I for one am *shaking in my fucking shoes* at where things are going. I'm supposed to be applying for jobs, but instead only Rena is keeping me from a total backslide on things. I want to put my head under the covers and not come out til this terrifying gd nightmare is ended. And yes, I too resent that I'll be held as responsible as those who cheered it on.

@Scendera
You *especially*, for living in the former Confederacy. There's a common perception of the situation that the Civil War never really ended but just went cold, and now either it's going hot, or we've already lost it over a hundred years after the fact.

(I do think the assumption that we've *already* lost is too extreme, but.)

@pteryx I recently stepped back from a pretty big advocacy role in my union, at the state level, because they don't get that not everyone has the same capabilities.

My gifts in certain areas are considerable. If you need me to also give you 25 signatures on a bullshit petition or my help is unwelcome, fuck off.

And I don't mind telling them that they're the problem, not me.

@humanadverb
In my case, "what *can* I do?" is still a question I have no idea how to answer. The messages they want to push (boiling down to "Protest in front of the armed goons that want to kill all your friends, holding a sign they won't read, while on your absolute best behavior, *and be joyful about it!*") are not messages I want to promote, and I don't have better ones in mind. I'm not a social butterfly, either; introversion is treated as a mental illness, *especially* among women.

@pteryx Whoever "they" are who want that are idiots and assholes who can fuck off.

Sounds to me like your best way of helping us to practice self care, take small steps to increase your capacity in whatever ways present themselves, and stand by for when the right moment comes.

Aside from the Jewish (the only victims popularly remembered) and certain individuals... *every* German alive at that time is assumed to have been complicit in the horrors of Nazi Germany.

I frankly wonder sometimes if these protests are less about accomplishing anything, and more about *being seen doing something* whether it moves the needle or not, as a social self-defense effort. Being able to avoid accusations of complicity.

Adding to this another flavor of shaming of feeling the "wrong" emotions I've been seeing (as in, mere minutes ago elsewhere): people resenting when their attempts at offering comfort to someone don't work, accusing that person of "refusing to take offered comforts" rather than considering that maybe they're taking the wrong approach to comforting that particular person, and in extreme cases even treating them as spies out to destroy the resistance.

@humanadverb
In my case, "what *can* I do?" is still a question I have no idea how to answer. The messages they want to push (boiling down to "Protest in front of the armed goons that want to kill all your friends, holding a sign they won't read, while on your absolute best behavior, *and be joyful about it!*") are not messages I want to promote, and I don't have better ones in mind. I'm not a social butterfly, either; introversion is treated as a mental illness, *especially* among women.

@humanadverb
Except I'm not satisfied with that. "Practice self-care" in this context comes across to me as a pretty way of saying "do nothing, because you're useless; never mind that you'll be called complicit later".

The one thing I *did* do last year, namely prep, I've reached the limits of for my living conditions (and not just financially; there's really only one category left and it's one I don't think I have the emotional capacity for).

@pteryx People who haven't been photographed at protests are going to be needed, later on. People who have safe places to retreat are going to be needed, later on. Being as maximally stable as you can be is actually really important prep work.

People who are focused on how they'll be remembered aren't gonna do a lot of good for people.

So, you're not out there partying with the cool kids and getting tear-gased. Sounds smart, useful, and like *real* resistance.

Aside from the Jewish (the only victims popularly remembered) and certain individuals... *every* German alive at that time is assumed to have been complicit in the horrors of Nazi Germany.

I frankly wonder sometimes if these protests are less about accomplishing anything, and more about *being seen doing something* whether it moves the needle or not, as a social self-defense effort. Being able to avoid accusations of complicity.

Oh, and it *also* doesn't help that while once upon a time protests had an implied threat of escalation backing them up, which gave them a lot of their power, nowadays people have magical beliefs about universally peaceful resistance, the more peaceful and polite the better. "Don't escalate or you'll give the fascists an excuse!", they scream, as though the fascists won't make up excuses that the press will parrot anyway, and others will believe.

Oh, and it *also* doesn't help that while once upon a time protests had an implied threat of escalation backing them up, which gave them a lot of their power, nowadays people have magical beliefs about universally peaceful resistance, the more peaceful and polite the better. "Don't escalate or you'll give the fascists an excuse!", they scream, as though the fascists won't make up excuses that the press will parrot anyway, and others will believe.

Oh, and it *also* doesn't help that while once upon a time protests had an implied threat of escalation backing them up, which gave them a lot of their power, nowadays people have magical beliefs about universally peaceful resistance, the more peaceful and polite the better. "Don't escalate or you'll give the fascists an excuse!", they scream, as though the fascists won't make up excuses that the press will parrot anyway, and others will believe.

@pteryx I'm not crazy about the idea I'm "less innocent" than anyone else because the only housing I could get is in the south, considering I vote blue. But I can't entirely disagree with it either, even if guilt by association doesn't feel fair.

Whatever I can do to help, I intend to. Thinking carefully about WHAT helps most, beyond voting and persuading, is crucial. Making each action count. My health and energy increasingly limits what I can do.