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which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist.

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  • JohnJ John

    @blogdiva

    Will they manage to kill the PC market? Or will they manage to give birth to tens of thousands of small, local computer recycling, refurbishing, and building companies/centers?

    All of it is going to collapse in on itself. It's just Theranos except instead of a couple billions of dollars it's a couple trillions of dollars.

    Fluffy Kitty CatF This user is from outside of this forum
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    @johnzajac @blogdiva that, and diversification of production. Things like RISC-V aren't just for nerds, it's the key to a resilient supply chain.

    The computer market's getting fundamentally upended and old hardware won't be automatically obsolete anymore

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    • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

      @johnzajac @blogdiva that, and diversification of production. Things like RISC-V aren't just for nerds, it's the key to a resilient supply chain.

      The computer market's getting fundamentally upended and old hardware won't be automatically obsolete anymore

      Fluffy Kitty CatF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #15

      @johnzajac @blogdiva now is the time for right to repair anything with a chip in it

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      • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

        RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

        which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

        THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

        THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

        memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

        RythurR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @blogdiva

        Backfires, we all go outside

        To play.

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        • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

          RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

          which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

          THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

          THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

          memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

          CleoG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @blogdiva yep, home server community was becoming way to refined for them to be comfortable. Someone with no technical knowledge could easily run a qnap server.

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          • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

            RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

            which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

            THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

            THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

            memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

            ░ON░THE█AIR░R This user is from outside of this forum
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            ░ON░THE█AIR░
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            #18

            @blogdiva Watch me go back to paper... seriously. I've just about had it.

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            • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

              RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

              which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

              THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

              THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

              memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

              RealGene ☣️R This user is from outside of this forum
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              RealGene ☣️
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              @blogdiva
              Wouldn't it be easier to just have the PRC take Taiwan?

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              • UrzlG Urzl

                @blogdiva Good timing for Google to lock down Android yet further, right?

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                Kinene
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                @gooba42 @blogdiva Grrrrr.

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                • JargogglesJ Jargoggles

                  @flipper @blogdiva
                  Sometimes, I like to imagine a world where we just threw people into a volcano if they tried to do shit like lend the same banana to three people and then claim they had three bananas or sell people bananas that don't exist yet.

                  Paul CantrellI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #21

                  @jargoggles @blogdiva @flipper See, that’s how you end up with polluted volcanos.

                  Dump your billionaires elsewhere! Leave the volcanos alone!

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                  • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                    @johnzajac @blogdiva now is the time for right to repair anything with a chip in it

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                    @fluffykittycat @johnzajac @blogdiva

                    fuck yeah, I didn't expect analog nowhere to be the dystopia we were headed towards

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                    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                      @jargoggles @blogdiva @flipper See, that’s how you end up with polluted volcanos.

                      Dump your billionaires elsewhere! Leave the volcanos alone!

                      The Orange ThemeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @inthehands @jargoggles @blogdiva @flipper Wouldn't they just vaporize immediately? Wear your respirator!

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                      • JohnJ John

                        @blogdiva

                        Will they manage to kill the PC market? Or will they manage to give birth to tens of thousands of small, local computer recycling, refurbishing, and building companies/centers?

                        All of it is going to collapse in on itself. It's just Theranos except instead of a couple billions of dollars it's a couple trillions of dollars.

                        John TimaeusJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        John Timaeus
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                        #24

                        @johnzajac @blogdiva

                        Unfortunately, they're monopolizing the supply chains and having them build big industrial equipment.

                        Most consumers need consumer gear. We need lawnmowers and hand pushed snowblower. Everything being built for the AI bubble is a 10m wide combine

                        You can't put what they're having built under a desk, or in a laptop, or as 512g storage in a thumb drive

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                        • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                          RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                          which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                          THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                          THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                          memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

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                          @blogdiva Oligarchic Technocracy....they just getting started.... soon They'll start buying ''SOULS & ''BODIES'' On the open market

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                          • John TimaeusJ John Timaeus

                            @johnzajac @blogdiva

                            Unfortunately, they're monopolizing the supply chains and having them build big industrial equipment.

                            Most consumers need consumer gear. We need lawnmowers and hand pushed snowblower. Everything being built for the AI bubble is a 10m wide combine

                            You can't put what they're having built under a desk, or in a laptop, or as 512g storage in a thumb drive

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                            wrote last edited by
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                            @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                            So what you're saying is that most of the world will be plunged into non-smart appliances, and people won't discard computers and phones like they're toilet paper, like some kind of frickin' paradise?

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                            • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

                              RE: https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/116127090589590254

                              which is why there is no hoarding of all the computers and RAM for data centers that don’t even exist. what we are witnessing is a mafia-type collusion to remove from commercial circulation all the computational power people need to continue about their daily digital lives without paying rents to IP-thieving techbro clouds.

                              THERE IS NO RAM SHORTAGE.

                              THERE IS A BIG TECH COLLUSION TO CREATE A PC TECH SHORTAGE

                              memory is just the beginning. techbros are out to kill the PC market

                              alexraffa :unverified:A This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @blogdiva I suggest an excellent boom from Yanis Varoufakis "technofeudalism" that expands on manu of the topics I read in this thread.

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                              • JohnJ John

                                @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                                So what you're saying is that most of the world will be plunged into non-smart appliances, and people won't discard computers and phones like they're toilet paper, like some kind of frickin' paradise?

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                                @johnzajac maybe it will kill disposable vapes too, truly a return to the dark ages

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                                • JohnJ John

                                  @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                                  So what you're saying is that most of the world will be plunged into non-smart appliances, and people won't discard computers and phones like they're toilet paper, like some kind of frickin' paradise?

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                                  @johnzajac @blogdiva

                                  I'm seeing a 5ish year long realignment toward consumer electronics -- after the bubble bursts and the initial economic havoc clears. The primary suppliers will have detooled all the 'user grade' supply chains by the end of 2026.

                                  Getting back to making affordable RAM, performant cpu, and storage that you can buy and practically use as an end user is going to be hard.

                                  If the bubble bursts today, I don't need 10-20 rack units of gpu and power sucking high performance storage.

                                  I need a phone with an unbroken screen, and a laptop with double the cores, memory, and ssd of the one I bought four years ago.

                                  Datacenter gear at discount prices doesn't fit in my backpack.

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                                  • JohnJ John

                                    @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                                    So what you're saying is that most of the world will be plunged into non-smart appliances, and people won't discard computers and phones like they're toilet paper, like some kind of frickin' paradise?

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                                    @johnzajac @blogdiva

                                    Quite the opposite. Personally owned compute will become the exclusive territory of the rich.

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                                    • John TimaeusJ John Timaeus

                                      @johnzajac @blogdiva

                                      Quite the opposite. Personally owned compute will become the exclusive territory of the rich.

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                                      @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                                      Which will be useless because most content is created by the non rich

                                      They'll have a whole lotta nothin because no one will make software because it won't make any money. I guess if you think Claude will code all software in the future that's not true, but you'd have to be a rube to believe that.

                                      If personal compute goes away, literally 30% of modern GDP goes with it, probably more because of all the shit that relies on it for logistics and commerce

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                                      • JohnJ John

                                        @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                                        Which will be useless because most content is created by the non rich

                                        They'll have a whole lotta nothin because no one will make software because it won't make any money. I guess if you think Claude will code all software in the future that's not true, but you'd have to be a rube to believe that.

                                        If personal compute goes away, literally 30% of modern GDP goes with it, probably more because of all the shit that relies on it for logistics and commerce

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                                        @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                                        Also long before people stop having computers they will start recycling and reusing tech rather than throwing it away.

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                                        • JohnJ John

                                          @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                                          Also long before people stop having computers they will start recycling and reusing tech rather than throwing it away.

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                                          @johntimaeus @blogdiva

                                          There are already groups in every major city that refurbish computers for free and run component libraries. They will simply become ubiquitous

                                          Phones and PCs no longer lose value. People will no longer demand 100x the computing power they actually need. Brick phones will proliferate

                                          The panopticon will...have nothing to look at

                                          FAANG will cease to exist, but so will Palantir and all the other data scrapers. LLMs will fail for lack of published human-made material

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