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  • Mullvad VPNM This user is from outside of this forum
    Mullvad VPNM This user is from outside of this forum
    Mullvad VPN
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    The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

    shadowwwindS RetR leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M Eugen RochkoG retechR 17 Replies Last reply
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    • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

      The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

      shadowwwindS This user is from outside of this forum
      shadowwwindS This user is from outside of this forum
      shadowwwind
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      @mullvadnet whut

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      • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

        The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

        RetR This user is from outside of this forum
        RetR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mullvadnet do you have some more information about the "ban" here? I'd like to write to the ASA to complain about that decision if possible. I can't see a ruling entry for it on the ASA site.

        leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M Simon newslttrs.comS 2 Replies Last reply
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        • Charlie O’HaraA This user is from outside of this forum
          Charlie O’HaraA This user is from outside of this forum
          Charlie O’Hara
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          @mullvadnet say what? Tell us more of this more please!

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          • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

            The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

            leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
            leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
            leah & flutters & nose, oh my!
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            @mullvadnet hold up! Mullvad wasn't censored. that word has a particular, specific meaning, and unlike most private organisations that might deny someone a platform, Clearcast has a judicial review ruling saying that it's a private, non-governmental body:

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            had Mullvad's ad been banned by the ASA, that would have been censorship - and indeed, since the ASA also monitors billboard ads, that might still happen... but what happened here was that nobody who broadcast the ads would broadcast Mullvad's, which is probably not terribly surprising given that they're all owned by companies with a vested interest in not letting VPNs get a foothold.

            moreover, it was just that ad that was rejected. not Mullvad as a whole.

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            And then? And then Mullvad was censored in the UK.

            UK ramps up censorship & surveillance. Mullvad's critical TV ad "And Then?" was banned. Watch it here.

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            • RetR Ret

              @mullvadnet do you have some more information about the "ban" here? I'd like to write to the ASA to complain about that decision if possible. I can't see a ruling entry for it on the ASA site.

              leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
              leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
              leah & flutters & nose, oh my!
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              @ret @mullvadnet Mullvad's own account is here.

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              And then? And then Mullvad was censored in the UK.

              UK ramps up censorship & surveillance. Mullvad's critical TV ad "And Then?" was banned. Watch it here.

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              there's nothing to complain to the ASA about - the ad was rejected by the TV companies' own (private, joint-owned) pre-vetting body, and mainly on grounds of quality and clarity.

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              • leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M leah & flutters & nose, oh my!

                @ret @mullvadnet Mullvad's own account is here.

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                And then? And then Mullvad was censored in the UK.

                UK ramps up censorship & surveillance. Mullvad's critical TV ad "And Then?" was banned. Watch it here.

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                Mullvad VPN (mullvad.net)

                there's nothing to complain to the ASA about - the ad was rejected by the TV companies' own (private, joint-owned) pre-vetting body, and mainly on grounds of quality and clarity.

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                @mewsleah thanks, I hadn't seen that. Disappointing.

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                • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                  The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                  Eugen RochkoG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Eugen Rochko
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                  @mullvadnet It's a great ad.

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                  • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                    The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                    retechR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mullvadnet WOW. Guess they're using 1984 as a playbook and not a warning.

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                    • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                      The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                      Handler SkylerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @mullvadnet Strong words for neither being Banned nor Censored

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                      • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                        The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                        Jörg SeidelL This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jörg SeidelL This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jörg Seidel
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                        @mullvadnet
                        I like the ad. Consider uploading it to peertube so we can share it here?

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                        • Jörg SeidelL Jörg Seidel

                          @mullvadnet
                          I like the ad. Consider uploading it to peertube so we can share it here?

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                          JB :mullvadvpn:
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                          @lostgen

                          Which instance would you suggest? I looked at Odysee but I am not sure it is a good alternative to YT.

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                          • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                            @mullvadnet It's a great ad.

                            JB :mullvadvpn:J This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Gargron

                            and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then

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                            • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                              The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                              LightL This user is from outside of this forum
                              LightL This user is from outside of this forum
                              Light
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                              @mullvadnet
                              > the TV ad “And Then?” […] was banned on British television.
                              Source?

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                              • JB :mullvadvpn:J JB :mullvadvpn:

                                @lostgen

                                Which instance would you suggest? I looked at Odysee but I am not sure it is a good alternative to YT.

                                Jörg SeidelL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Jörg Seidel
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                                @jbjrkng
                                I have no experience with public instances unfortunately.

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                                • Charlie O’HaraA Charlie O’Hara

                                  @mullvadnet say what? Tell us more of this more please!

                                  Charlie O’HaraA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Charlie O’HaraA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Charlie O’Hara
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                                  @mullvadnet ah, so reading more it wasn’t accepted by the TV advertisers. Which is not exactly surprising given they hate technology like VPNs. I know you wanted to make a stink but this just looks silly.

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                                  • RetR Ret

                                    @mullvadnet do you have some more information about the "ban" here? I'd like to write to the ASA to complain about that decision if possible. I can't see a ruling entry for it on the ASA site.

                                    Simon newslttrs.comS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Simon newslttrs.comS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Simon newslttrs.com
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                                    @ret @mullvadnet it wasn’t banned. A private company didn’t clear it for broadcast. Mullvad didn’t try to make it compliant because it suits their commercial interests to claim it was banned. They get more free publicity this way and get to present themselves as the underdog. https://mullvad.net/en/and-then/uk

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                                    • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                                      The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                                      Kierkegaanks regretfullyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @mullvadnet i saw this ad at least a dozen times on tv in sweden over christmas. Not sure if my mom got the message

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                                      • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                                        The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

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                                        @mullvadnet

                                        File won't play, says it's corrupt.

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                                        • LightL Light

                                          @mullvadnet
                                          > the TV ad “And Then?” […] was banned on British television.
                                          Source?

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                                          @mullvadnet
                                          For example, a public statement from the agency responsible

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