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  • PeejmaybeP Peejmaybe

    @redoak @afewbugs wait, guys have to be ASKED to do this stuff and don’t just do it? Is it the 1970s again?

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    @peejmaybe respectfully, who is this performance supposed to be for? unequal gendered divisions of labor and especially emotional labor are not something old and distant. it's been the norm this whole time for a vast majority of people.

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    • Red OakR Red Oak

      been a while since i reposted this classic, but @afewbugs inspired me to dust it off today. truly fundamental imo.

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      @redoak @afewbugs

      #JoshuaIdehen

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      The world according to your mom doing the washing! I might have mentioned it already. I believe that "Mum Does The Washing" by #JoshuaIdehen has been my favourite track/video of 2024! https://youtu.be/PS9Bc_GQBEs #housemusic #electronicmusic #spokenword

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      • Red OakR Red Oak

        been a while since i reposted this classic, but @afewbugs inspired me to dust it off today. truly fundamental imo.

        Nerd, Lord Of The KneeN This user is from outside of this forum
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        @redoak @afewbugs

        Yet, I am incredibly confused by the fact that so many people from my generation (Gen Z), especially (but not only) boys, don't even see a point in learning how to cook.
        As my English teacher once put it:
        "Being able to make food for yourself is quite an essential skill for your life."

        But perhaps I just enjoy cooking way too much to really understand the struggles of people who don't 🤷‍♂️

        So yes, you're absolutely right - that's just my two cents.

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        • DonnieM Donnie

          @redoak @afewbugs there is so much wisdom and love in just accepting that life is messy and not leaving it up to other people to clean up after you.

          Caring for the people around you by cleaning up after them if you are able is also sublime and shouldn’t be left up to gendered divisions of labor.

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          @macbraughton @redoak @afewbugs

          The rest of my family have various forms of disability so even though cleaning is not much in my nature noticing other folks and being kind and helpful is.

          It can be a kindness to have the opportunity to be kind.

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          • Dr Manabu Sakamoto (he/him)D Dr Manabu Sakamoto (he/him)

            @redoak It's all in the mentality. As long as you've got the mindset that you're helping out, it's always going to be someone else's responsibility and you're doing them a favour.

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            @drmambobob true, also with a lot of other things

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            • Red OakR Red Oak

              been a while since i reposted this classic, but @afewbugs inspired me to dust it off today. truly fundamental imo.

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              @redoak @afewbugs “who washes the dishes” is a classic anarchist problem https://crimethinc.com/posters/wash-your-own-dishes

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              • Red OakR Red Oak

                been a while since i reposted this classic, but @afewbugs inspired me to dust it off today. truly fundamental imo.

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                @redoak Brings to mind Leonard Cohen's lyric:
                "The homicidal bitchin'
                That goes on in every kitchen
                To determine who will serve and who will eat"

                @afewbugs

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                • Red OakR Red Oak

                  been a while since i reposted this classic, but @afewbugs inspired me to dust it off today. truly fundamental imo.

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                  @redoak @afewbugs what we need is a bearded influencer who makes dish washing videos wearing black latex gloves and using a hand-carved oak handled brush

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                  • Dr Manabu Sakamoto (he/him)D Dr Manabu Sakamoto (he/him)

                    @redoak It's all in the mentality. As long as you've got the mindset that you're helping out, it's always going to be someone else's responsibility and you're doing them a favour.

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                    @drmambobob @redoak Absolutely all this. It reminds me of a conversation I once had with a guy who said he couldn't make an appointment because he was "babysitting the kids". He was referring to his own children. Didn't quite know at the time how to explain to him that one doesn't babysit their own children. He was also very grumpy and put out by this turn of events that he was being expected to parent his own kids on a singular day out of many.

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                    • Dr Manabu Sakamoto (he/him)D Dr Manabu Sakamoto (he/him)

                      @redoak It's all in the mentality. As long as you've got the mindset that you're helping out, it's always going to be someone else's responsibility and you're doing them a favour.

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                      @drmambobob @redoak Yes yes! I love to see the mental load recognized.

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                      • Red OakR Red Oak

                        been a while since i reposted this classic, but @afewbugs inspired me to dust it off today. truly fundamental imo.

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                        @redoak @afewbugs Let's go!

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                        • Jupiter SighJ Jupiter Sigh

                          @drmambobob @redoak Absolutely all this. It reminds me of a conversation I once had with a guy who said he couldn't make an appointment because he was "babysitting the kids". He was referring to his own children. Didn't quite know at the time how to explain to him that one doesn't babysit their own children. He was also very grumpy and put out by this turn of events that he was being expected to parent his own kids on a singular day out of many.

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                          @jupitersigh I was the stay-home Dad to my son for his first six or seven years, and I wouldn't trade those years for the world. To this day (he's 20), he reminds me of the talks and walks we had, the things we did and learned together. I have a bond with my son that will never be broken, and could never have been forged as easily any other way. @drmambobob @redoak

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                          • Nerd, Lord Of The KneeN Nerd, Lord Of The Knee

                            @redoak @afewbugs

                            Yet, I am incredibly confused by the fact that so many people from my generation (Gen Z), especially (but not only) boys, don't even see a point in learning how to cook.
                            As my English teacher once put it:
                            "Being able to make food for yourself is quite an essential skill for your life."

                            But perhaps I just enjoy cooking way too much to really understand the struggles of people who don't 🤷‍♂️

                            So yes, you're absolutely right - that's just my two cents.

                            Pteryx the Puzzle SecretaryP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Nerd @redoak @afewbugs
                            Both my parents could cook (they had somewhat stereotypical strengths and weaknesses at it relative to each other, but both were competent enough even at their weaker points). The attitude about it in our house was, "Cooking isn't a feminine skill, but a survival skill."

                            It bugs me that this attitude isn't more widespread... and given what's happening in our country now, I worry some people may die over it because supplies of heat-and-eat food may be disrupted.

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                            • Dr Manabu Sakamoto (he/him)D Dr Manabu Sakamoto (he/him)

                              @redoak I'm tell my son that "men don't help with the chores, we do the chores".

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                              @drmambobob @redoak Many years ago, we blew my young son's mind when my wife went out to more the lawn while I "cleaned the kitchen". (I was actually cleaning the ceiling to prepare it for painting, but I worded it that way on purpose. 😁)

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                              • Pteryx the Puzzle SecretaryP Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary

                                @Nerd @redoak @afewbugs
                                Both my parents could cook (they had somewhat stereotypical strengths and weaknesses at it relative to each other, but both were competent enough even at their weaker points). The attitude about it in our house was, "Cooking isn't a feminine skill, but a survival skill."

                                It bugs me that this attitude isn't more widespread... and given what's happening in our country now, I worry some people may die over it because supplies of heat-and-eat food may be disrupted.

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                                @pteryx @Nerd @redoak @afewbugs
                                When single I was always able to put _something_ on the table and as a newlywed I backslid some to more stereotypical “manly” cooking, but always did something. about 15 years ago I went “i can do this!” And learned to cook. It’s been so much fun

                                So many of my wife’s friends have husbands who do NOTHING in the kitchen and and Im always “dude! Friday night is spaghetti night. You can f’ing manage spaghetti for the family.”

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