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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.

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  • arrakeen_urbaniteA arrakeen_urbanite

    @briankrebs If this happens, the EU should impose similar restrictions on U.S. citizen travelers.

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    wrote last edited by
    #80

    @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs

    only on politicians

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    • AAKLA AAKL

      @briankrebs FIFA's Word Cup tournaments in the U.S. need to be boycotted or cancelled. This puts the world at the mercy of these thugs.

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      wrote last edited by
      #81

      @AAKL @briankrebs

      We discussed that today – there are two other countries involved, we just have to move the US games north or south...

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      • AAKLA AAKL

        @jimfl @briankrebs Oh, we wouldn't want that, would we? The tantrum that follows would be catastrophic.

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        wrote last edited by
        #82

        @AAKL @briankrebs Ketchup everywhere

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        • Gero SteinT Gero Stein

          @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Exactly. Just because the government of one country turns fascist does not mean that we, as Europeans, should abandon our core values, such as those enshrined in the European Charter of Fundamental Rights.

          If our European values are to be more than a paper exercise, we must be prepared to uphold them.

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          wrote last edited by
          #83

          @tdr @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs This. Cubed.

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          • RealGene ☣️R RealGene ☣️

            @briankrebs
            Why didn't they just require everyone get chipped also?

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            wrote last edited by
            #84

            @RealGene guess a tattoo with number will he the next proposal
            @briankrebs

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            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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              The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

              Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

              favicon

              Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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              wrote last edited by
              #85

              @briankrebs Just more reasons why I won't be travelling to the United States anytime soon.

              Way to go, Trump. Way to kill the economic benefits tourism brings to your country.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                @briankrebs

                I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

                Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

                Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

                Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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                wrote last edited by
                #86

                @cstross @briankrebs

                When I go to visit my Canadian in laws I can see the Olympic Peninsula and Mount Baker across the Juan de Fuca Straight. That's plenty close enough for me.

                After what I called The Orange Emperor on his racist friend's hellsite they won't let me in anyway.

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                  Link Preview Image
                  The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                  Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                  favicon

                  Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #87

                  @briankrebs In summary, if this change goes into effect, when leaving the US, don't plan on coming back.

                  #totalitariannism #US #censorship

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                  • Gero SteinT Gero Stein

                    @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Exactly. Just because the government of one country turns fascist does not mean that we, as Europeans, should abandon our core values, such as those enshrined in the European Charter of Fundamental Rights.

                    If our European values are to be more than a paper exercise, we must be prepared to uphold them.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #88

                    @tdr @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Also, tourism is an export product. If they want to sabotage their export to us, that doesn't force us to do an equally dumb thing in reverse.

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

                      "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #89

                      @briankrebs Cancel the World Cup.

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                      • DanD Dan

                        @briankrebs

                        Hmmm... Just in time for the World Cup and Olympics?
                        I think we will see countries boycott these events, but this might push more over the edge.

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                        #90

                        @dann @briankrebs well at least team america will win the world cup as they will be the only team playing?

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                        • gnaddrigG gnaddrig

                          @troy @briankrebs

                          "Whose going to remember all of that anyways?"

                          And who is going to check/verify any of this, and how?

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #91

                          @gnaddrig @troy @briankrebs shitty AI to summarise it...incorrectly of course. All those data centres aren't just for CSAM...

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

                            "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #92

                            @briankrebs This policy is going to fuck over Hawaii, certainly. Maybe Florida, too.

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                            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                              Link Preview Image
                              The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                              Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                              favicon

                              Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #93

                              @briankrebs I could not with any confidence give anyone all the emails I have used last two or three years.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                @briankrebs

                                I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

                                Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

                                Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

                                Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #94

                                @cstross

                                It's a beautiful country.

                                Visited a couple of times in the 90s, and did long road trips which were amazing. Still have a few friends over there that have yet to assume room temperature (I'm a little older than you) and with whom I still correspond.

                                Cannot and will not go back there until this crap-storm is over. So sad..

                                @briankrebs

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                                • Rob Cinos :verified:R Rob Cinos :verified:

                                  @briankrebs Cancel the World Cup.

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #95

                                  @robcinos
                                  It may just cancel itself. @briankrebs

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                                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                    favicon

                                    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #96

                                    Side note:

                                    »Sepp Blatter suggests fans should not travel to #US for World Cup
                                    Ex-#Fifa boss shows support for #boycott calls«

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                                    Sepp Blatter suggests fans should not travel to US for World Cup

                                    The former Fifa president backed a Swiss lawyer who called for a boycott of the tournament due to security concerns in the US

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                                    the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

                                    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/worldcup/2026/01/26/former-fifa-president-sepp-blatter-fans-usa-world-cup/88361864007/

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      @briankrebs

                                      I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

                                      Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

                                      Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

                                      Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #97

                                      @cstross
                                      My spouse, a US citizen, went home to visit family last year, and found themselves distinctly uncomfortable at the border. I don't think I've been back since we were married, also in 2016.
                                      @briankrebs

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                        favicon

                                        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                        wrote last edited by
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                                        @briankrebs A LOT of things will have to change in the US if I'm to ever set my foot on that continent again.
                                        At this point I'm not even sure the US will ever be able to win back the trust of many Europeans

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                                        • Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈L Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈

                                          @gnaddrig @troy @briankrebs shitty AI to summarise it...incorrectly of course. All those data centres aren't just for CSAM...

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #99

                                          @Lazarou @troy @briankrebs
                                          Makes sense, facts don't matter to these people. It's not about finding out facts about anything but to show everyone who is the hammer and who the nail ..

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