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Epic CEO Tim Sweeney takes yet another victory lap after Apple's latest appeal fails: 'The long national nightmare of the Apple tax is ended'

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  • Z zorque@lemmy.world

    Give Tim Sweeney lots of money? Why would the government do that?

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    Ulrich
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    #20

    …why would anyone do that?

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    • UlrichU Ulrich

      …why would anyone do that?

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      zorque@lemmy.world
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      #21

      I mean, it’s what you’re celebrating.

      You can make some vague claims that it’s going to be good for small businesses and independent developers… but realistically it’s only going to pad the pockets of the already rich. Any benefit to anyone else is going to be negligible.

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      • Z zorque@lemmy.world

        I mean, it’s what you’re celebrating.

        You can make some vague claims that it’s going to be good for small businesses and independent developers… but realistically it’s only going to pad the pockets of the already rich. Any benefit to anyone else is going to be negligible.

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        Ulrich
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        #22

        I mean, it’s what you’re celebrating.

        I don’t even know what money you’re talking about. Hard to celebrate that.

        realistically it’s only going to pad the pockets of the already rich

        …you mean Apple? No. It will benefit literally everyone else.

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        • UlrichU Ulrich

          I mean, it’s what you’re celebrating.

          I don’t even know what money you’re talking about. Hard to celebrate that.

          realistically it’s only going to pad the pockets of the already rich

          …you mean Apple? No. It will benefit literally everyone else.

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          zorque@lemmy.world
          wrote on last edited by
          #23

          … do you think Apple is the only highly successful company in the world? There’s tons of others… like Epic.

          I don’t even know what money you’re talking about. Hard to celebrate that.

          At least you admit to your ignorance, that’s the first step to actually knowing what the hell you’re talking about 🙂

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          • UlrichU Ulrich

            Well that’s unnecessarily fucking rude.

            What I meant was, it works perfectly for me.

            And you certainly didn’t use it back when the file dialogue couldn’t view outside the steam directory

            …I don’t understand what that has to do with anything. I don’t play games in the past.

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            ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
            wrote on last edited by
            #24

            You would know it’s imperfect

            I apologize for being rude and now you have a resource to use when something goes wrong

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            • Z zorque@lemmy.world

              … do you think Apple is the only highly successful company in the world? There’s tons of others… like Epic.

              I don’t even know what money you’re talking about. Hard to celebrate that.

              At least you admit to your ignorance, that’s the first step to actually knowing what the hell you’re talking about 🙂

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              Ulrich
              wrote on last edited by ulrich@feddit.org
              #25

              do you think Apple is the only highly successful company in the world?

              No just one of the most profitable in the world.

              There’s tons of others… like Epic.

              Epic is not “successful”, by any standard.

              that’s the first step to actually knowing what the hell you’re talking about

              I know exactly what I’m talking about. I just don’t know what you’re talking about.

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              • D dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com

                I’m so happy this other large company which wants to embed itself as a storefront and soak up fees won against the other large company which was already doing it.

                Like, genuinely I am, but Epic isn’t doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. Epic/Sweeney is mostly sad they didn’t have the monopoly first.

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                bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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                #26

                What a dumb bar to judge them by. Not a single entity with an interest in fighting this fight would be doing it out of the goodness of their hearts

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                • Z zorque@lemmy.world

                  … do you think Apple is the only highly successful company in the world? There’s tons of others… like Epic.

                  I don’t even know what money you’re talking about. Hard to celebrate that.

                  At least you admit to your ignorance, that’s the first step to actually knowing what the hell you’re talking about 🙂

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                  bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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                  #27

                  The only business who is losing anything here is Apple.

                  Literally anyone else, including your solo dev kid cousin, who just made his first game, wins from this

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                  • B bronzebeard@lemm.ee

                    What a dumb bar to judge them by. Not a single entity with an interest in fighting this fight would be doing it out of the goodness of their hearts

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                    dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com
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                    #28

                    They did a good thing but I still get to judge them for ultimately being greedy.

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                      blitzen@lemmy.ca
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                      #29

                      Apple v Epic is like the Trump-Elon fight. Apple, like Trump, does more and lasting damage. Sweeny, like Elon, is somehow even more hate-able.

                      I don’t want either side to win, I want both sides to lose.

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                      • D dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com

                        I’m so happy this other large company which wants to embed itself as a storefront and soak up fees won against the other large company which was already doing it.

                        Like, genuinely I am, but Epic isn’t doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. Epic/Sweeney is mostly sad they didn’t have the monopoly first.

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                        borgdrone@lemmy.one
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                        #30

                        Now Epic can finally install their own payment system, bypassing Apple’s parental controls, and little Timmy can just enter the details from mommy’s credit card when Epic gets him addicted to gambling loot boxes.

                        Such a win for consumers.

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                        • 9 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world

                          Okay now he should be able to afford developers to make all their games on Epic SteamDeck-compatible, right?

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                          kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          #31

                          Epic literally cannot even bother, they handed Linux to valve on a golden platter

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                          • UlrichU Ulrich

                            do you think Apple is the only highly successful company in the world?

                            No just one of the most profitable in the world.

                            There’s tons of others… like Epic.

                            Epic is not “successful”, by any standard.

                            that’s the first step to actually knowing what the hell you’re talking about

                            I know exactly what I’m talking about. I just don’t know what you’re talking about.

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                            borari
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #32

                            Epic is not successful? They’re a privately held company with a valuation of like $32 billion. They are the developers of Fortnite, and like 75% of all console/PC video games are built in their engine.

                            I guess my question is how the fuck do you define successful then?

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                            • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca

                              Steam takes just as big a cut as Apple

                              But UE already supports Linux export and when Epic bought EAC the first thing they did was give it Linux support so they have already done what you asked

                              Unless you’re talking about Fortnite

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                              sparky@lemmy.federate.cc
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                              Yes, Steam takes a cut as well. But the crux of the argument is the monopoly part. You can distribute your game outside of steam - on other app stores, or sell it directly to customers if you want. On iOS, there is literally no other distribution channel. You have to pay Apple and use their thing. That’s the difference.

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                                etterra@discuss.online
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                                Too bad (for him) Epic is still trash.

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                                • blitzen@lemmy.caB blitzen@lemmy.ca

                                  Apple v Epic is like the Trump-Elon fight. Apple, like Trump, does more and lasting damage. Sweeny, like Elon, is somehow even more hate-able.

                                  I don’t want either side to win, I want both sides to lose.

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                                  etterra@discuss.online
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                                  When the girls are fighting, I’m on team popcorn.

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                                    metalmachine@feddit.nl
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                                    #36

                                    Thought Epic isn’t entirely the good guy, this is great news for them and everyone else who’s been under Apples oppressive rules

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                                    • E etterra@discuss.online

                                      Too bad (for him) Epic is still trash.

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                                      mangionedontmiss@lemmy.ca
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                                      #37

                                      why is epic trash? I mean yes, sweeney sucks balls, but why EPIC trash?

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                                      • D dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com

                                        I’m so happy this other large company which wants to embed itself as a storefront and soak up fees won against the other large company which was already doing it.

                                        Like, genuinely I am, but Epic isn’t doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. Epic/Sweeney is mostly sad they didn’t have the monopoly first.

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                                        mangionedontmiss@lemmy.ca
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                                        #38

                                        ask any game dev if they’re happy Epic won this battle? If they say no then they’ve never tried to release a game on a marketplace. This is a huge win for developers.

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                                        • M mangionedontmiss@lemmy.ca

                                          ask any game dev if they’re happy Epic won this battle? If they say no then they’ve never tried to release a game on a marketplace. This is a huge win for developers.

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                                          dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com
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                                          #39

                                          I am a dev. I said I’m glad they won. Epic still sucks, though.

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