The media can keep bashing the Canadian government scrapping the tax. The last minute “capitulation” as many in the media is framing it as, while true, is also disingenuous on how Canada has to deal with the US given the cards it has in hand. Canada right now still relies heavily on exporting things to the US and keeping the US at the table talking is the best it can do right now until it can secure other trade deals around the world. Proximity matters and even more so when they are still is a superpower.

Canada still has many options despite this digital tax. What about banning US big tech? What about changing the rules about tech companies entering Canadian job space (and it doesn’t have to be a tax)? Other countries have managed (eg. China, Denmark), so why can’t Canada? The government can fight on one front, but Canadians themselves also have to. The boycott of travel to the US and of US goods clearly has made impact, but Canadians can do more. Support open source software like Linux, move away from Adobe and so forth. There are alternatives and some even Canadian ones. If we are to truly give the Canadian government good tools to fight, we too must do our jobs individually.

To be fair, we had to vote for the banker cuz the only realistic alternative was a nazi-handshaking maple maga moron. We picked the best of the shitty options.

I would have LOVED to see Jagmeet in the big chair, but too much of Canada is too racist to vote for someone in a turban, and the rest were going to vote for PP.

So ya. Cheney is a fucking banker. But he’s better in every way than PP.

Apple was so successful in avoiding taxes in Europe that it is estimated that it paid in some years a tax of just 0.005% on its European profits.

And that is why stealing from a corporation is not a crime. They have deprived you, personally, of benefits and services that your government can not afford because of tax dodging. They are killing you, personally, by privatizing your health care, by opposing electrification, by using single use plastics for nearly all packaging. They are keeping you, personally, poor by suppressing wages, raising prices, and outsourcing labour to markets where slavery is not only tolerated but the norm.

You can not injure a corporation, you can not hurt it’s feelings. Pirate, lie, steal, cheat, get every penny you can from the 1% and use it to help the other 99.

Apple was so successful in avoiding taxes in Europe that it is estimated that it paid in some years a tax of just 0.005% on its European profits.

And that is why stealing from a corporation is not a crime. They have deprived you, personally, of benefits and services that your government can not afford because of tax dodging. They are killing you, personally, by privatizing your health care, by opposing electrification, by using single use plastics for nearly all packaging. They are keeping you, personally, poor by suppressing wages, raising prices, and outsourcing labour to markets where slavery is not only tolerated but the norm.

You can not injure a corporation, you can not hurt it’s feelings. Pirate, lie, steal, cheat, get every penny you can from the 1% and use it to help the other 99.

But he’s better in some way than PP.

FIFY, because clearly not in every way. In many ways, as evidenced here, he sucks just as much.

The issue is that now we’re stuck in the same cycle again of someone who’s going to make thing measurably worse for the average person, while driving the overtone window further right, and thus further drive the rise of the far right. Voting for the lesser evil is how we got to here. The system works as expected.

Qe don’t have a two party system, the right choice was npd

The media can keep bashing the Canadian government scrapping the tax. The last minute “capitulation” as many in the media is framing it as, while true, is also disingenuous on how Canada has to deal with the US given the cards it has in hand. Canada right now still relies heavily on exporting things to the US and keeping the US at the table talking is the best it can do right now until it can secure other trade deals around the world. Proximity matters and even more so when they are still is a superpower.

Canada still has many options despite this digital tax. What about banning US big tech? What about changing the rules about tech companies entering Canadian job space (and it doesn’t have to be a tax)? Other countries have managed (eg. China, Denmark), so why can’t Canada? The government can fight on one front, but Canadians themselves also have to. The boycott of travel to the US and of US goods clearly has made impact, but Canadians can do more. Support open source software like Linux, move away from Adobe and so forth. There are alternatives and some even Canadian ones. If we are to truly give the Canadian government good tools to fight, we too must do our jobs individually.

I guess we’ll find out in time, but that’s sort of my point. Trump’s well known to fold (TACO), maybe he would have shown up to the table anyway, or written us a letter!

I agree. NPD was the right choice. It’s just not the choice enough Canadians were going to make. Which sucks. Hard.

Here’s the thing. They have markets too. And his Taco behavior is rocketing every market across the globe every time he does this. And some speculate that he is making a load of money by doing this. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t, I don’t know. I don’t think he’s smart enough to actually take advantage of this. Though I know there are people out there who are and are making a ton of off of this. But all these countries crave stability, and the only way they’re going to get it is if Trump stops with all of his idiotic tariff talk. And before you say anything, no he will not learn his lesson. It has been over 6 months since he took office and he, despite everyone ignoring him constantly, has continued his unyielding parade of stupid.

This is an excellent piece from Joseph Stiglitz.

Everyone should read it.

Trump is bullying Canada over ‘digital taxes’ and Canada caved | Joseph Stiglitz

The question now: will countries cave in to these threats or stick together and collect the billions they are rightly owed?

the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

Ask 10 economists, you’ll get 10 different answers. But opinions are news now because we need to keep that train rolling in the new 24/7 news economy. My own opinion is that he “capitulated” to get the trade talks started again se he can get past that July 21st deadline and then proceed accordingly.

I think the point is that by capitulating on this, Canada has gained time. Time to make deals with other countries as trade partners, time to source necessities (that they have gotten from the U.S. for literally decades) from other countries, and time to build up their own military might in case Trump makes good on his idiotic “51st state” bullshit.

The last thing you do when a toddler throws a tantrum is give in to their demands. You reinforce their behaviour and teach them it works. Every child phsychologist can tell you that.

So why the fuck are world leaders, with the resources of an entire country, enabling this whiny man-child?!

The media can keep bashing the Canadian government scrapping the tax. The last minute “capitulation” as many in the media is framing it as, while true, is also disingenuous on how Canada has to deal with the US given the cards it has in hand. Canada right now still relies heavily on exporting things to the US and keeping the US at the table talking is the best it can do right now until it can secure other trade deals around the world. Proximity matters and even more so when they are still is a superpower.

Canada still has many options despite this digital tax. What about banning US big tech? What about changing the rules about tech companies entering Canadian job space (and it doesn’t have to be a tax)? Other countries have managed (eg. China, Denmark), so why can’t Canada? The government can fight on one front, but Canadians themselves also have to. The boycott of travel to the US and of US goods clearly has made impact, but Canadians can do more. Support open source software like Linux, move away from Adobe and so forth. There are alternatives and some even Canadian ones. If we are to truly give the Canadian government good tools to fight, we too must do our jobs individually.

Canadian companies, schools and government have deals with microsoft

When the majority keep saying npd is never going to win so i will not voting for them of course they will never win. Of you kwep voting for the same two parties thst failed multiple time, the country will keep getting worse

I also think it gives him a small bit of leverage too. They can always be reinstated the taxes since it was a 2020(?) bill with a deferred effective date

Hard agree. But it’s a function of FPTP. If we had a better voting system (like Trudeau promised!) then a lot more people could vote their conscience instead of doing strategic voting. But until then, voting strategically is often the best move.

Ask 10 economists, you’ll get 10 different answers. But opinions are news now because we need to keep that train rolling in the new 24/7 news economy. My own opinion is that he “capitulated” to get the trade talks started again se he can get past that July 21st deadline and then proceed accordingly.