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Mastercard, Visa Under Fire As Petition To 'Not Police' Legal Content Blows Up [petition on Change.org, currently 203K signatures] [direct link in comments]

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  • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca

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    MasterCard and Visa are interfering with legal entertainment — often under pressure from advocacy groups who want to censor what they deem "Problematic". We demand an end to this censorship of fiction, and the right to choose the stories we enjoy without moral policing.  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MasterCard and Visa have increasingly used

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    Mastercard, Visa Under Fire As Petition To 'Not Police' Legal Content Blows Up

    The petition addressed that MasterCard and Visa must stop censoring legal fictional content that complies with the law and platform standards.

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    dblsaiko
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    FWIW for itch.io the main issue is specifically Stripe this time according to one of their employees.

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    • G gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works

      Did you close it tho?

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      whostosay@sh.itjust.works
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      It can’t be closed, it’s been cut too many times.

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      • W whostosay@sh.itjust.works

        It can’t be closed, it’s been cut too many times.

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        gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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          whostosay@sh.itjust.works
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          I’ll never forget that opener they did where Dwight starts a fire and they throw that cat through the ceiling. 11/10

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          • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca

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            MasterCard and Visa are interfering with legal entertainment — often under pressure from advocacy groups who want to censor what they deem "Problematic". We demand an end to this censorship of fiction, and the right to choose the stories we enjoy without moral policing.  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MasterCard and Visa have increasingly used

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            squid64@lemmy.ca
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            I mean yeah they shouldn’t get involved in that. Just let the law deal with the people buying things that would be illegal. And this is also why cash and crypto (for online purchases) are the best way to buy things. Credit card companies should have no say in what people buy.

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            • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca

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              MasterCard and Visa are interfering with legal entertainment — often under pressure from advocacy groups who want to censor what they deem "Problematic". We demand an end to this censorship of fiction, and the right to choose the stories we enjoy without moral policing.  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MasterCard and Visa have increasingly used

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              funkyfarmington@lemmy.world
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              Payment processors need to STAY IN THEIR OWN FUCKING LANE!

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              • G gwaer@lemmy.world

                Does anywhere list numbers to call to do the same thing but about unnecessary censorship?

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                Have one of them! There’s dozens of posts about this on Bluesky, you could really pick if you wanted.

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                • G gwaer@lemmy.world

                  Does anywhere list numbers to call to do the same thing but about unnecessary censorship?

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                  TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾
                  wrote last edited by therapygary@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  #14

                  One-tap dial phone numbers:

                  Master card

                  • US + Can English
                    (skips card number input)

                  • Global


                  Visa

                  • US English

                  PayPal

                  • US English
                    Say “make a complaint”

                  • Global


                  Stripe (unconfirmed)

                  • US English

                  Script:

                  I’m calling to urge [company name] to immediately end the policy that unfairly targets the adult content industry. I’m also asking that [company name] sit down with stakeholders- specifically sex workers and adult content creators- to develop solutions that ensure equitable access to financial services, create stability, and reduce harm for sex workers.

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                  • dblsaiko2 dblsaiko

                    FWIW for itch.io the main issue is specifically Stripe this time according to one of their employees.

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                    Final Remix
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                    Stripe fuckin’ sucks for that. I’ve run into them pulling shit over hot sauce and other completely innocuous stuff over the years.

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                    • G gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works

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                      lovecanada@lemmy.ca
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                      Lol. Yeah I closed it. But declaring bankruptcy is more fun.

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                        Stripe fuckin’ sucks for that. I’ve run into them pulling shit over hot sauce and other completely innocuous stuff over the years.

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                        Hot sauce? Wtf?

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                        • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca

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                          A petition is useless. There needs to be an opposing organization whose members do exactly what these other asshats to, and call and write letters to the payment processors threatening boycotts and publicity.

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                          • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca

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                            coolmatt@lemmy.ca
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                            Okay I’m stupid.

                            What’s wrong with removing rape and incest games from Steam?

                            Edit: Thank you all for your answers, I was nervous to ask the question incase I would come off as a troll or ass hole or something and piss everyone off. They are very informative and have given me much to read and think about.

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                            • C coolmatt@lemmy.ca

                              Okay I’m stupid.

                              What’s wrong with removing rape and incest games from Steam?

                              Edit: Thank you all for your answers, I was nervous to ask the question incase I would come off as a troll or ass hole or something and piss everyone off. They are very informative and have given me much to read and think about.

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                              Justas🇱🇹
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                              First, they will remove rape and incest, then they will remove all LGBT games, then they will remove all nsfw, and then they will remove all violent games and so on until only the games deemed acceptable by the US evangelicals are left.

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                              • C coolmatt@lemmy.ca

                                Okay I’m stupid.

                                What’s wrong with removing rape and incest games from Steam?

                                Edit: Thank you all for your answers, I was nervous to ask the question incase I would come off as a troll or ass hole or something and piss everyone off. They are very informative and have given me much to read and think about.

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                                toomanypancakes
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                                The issue is payment processors unilaterally revoking access to content based on what they (or a conservative hate group with a telephone campaign) personally find morally impermissable.

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                                • Justas🇱🇹J Justas🇱🇹

                                  First, they will remove rape and incest, then they will remove all LGBT games, then they will remove all nsfw, and then they will remove all violent games and so on until only the games deemed acceptable by the US evangelicals are left.

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                                  coolmatt@lemmy.ca
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                                  Woah, so I know you’re not saying rape and incest is part of LGBT, but that sentence kinda made the jump. How did we get from rape and incest to LGBT? Why can’t just rape and incest be removed and stop there?

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                                  • toomanypancakesT toomanypancakes

                                    The issue is payment processors unilaterally revoking access to content based on what they (or a conservative hate group with a telephone campaign) personally find morally impermissable.

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                                    coolmatt@lemmy.ca
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                                    Well not sure about you, but I’d like to agree rape and incest is pretty fucked up so yeah it probably should be removed, so why should people have to see that on their computers in the first place?

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                                    • C coolmatt@lemmy.ca

                                      Woah, so I know you’re not saying rape and incest is part of LGBT, but that sentence kinda made the jump. How did we get from rape and incest to LGBT? Why can’t just rape and incest be removed and stop there?

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                                      sabinstargem@lemmy.today
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                                      Conservative movements are not known for their restraint and fairness. They cannot be trusted to not abuse people.

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                                      • C coolmatt@lemmy.ca

                                        Okay I’m stupid.

                                        What’s wrong with removing rape and incest games from Steam?

                                        Edit: Thank you all for your answers, I was nervous to ask the question incase I would come off as a troll or ass hole or something and piss everyone off. They are very informative and have given me much to read and think about.

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                                        daggity@lemmy.zip
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                                        Republicans are already classifying anything they don’t like as obscene pornography and finding ways to ban it. There’s been a surge in book bans in American schools, for example. From July to December 2023, PEN America found that more than 4,300 books were removed from schools across 23 states. Many of the targeted titles feature LGBTQ+ characters. Works that address rape and sexual assault are also increasingly being targeted. So don’t be fooled by Project 2025’s preoccupation with porn. The far right aren’t interested in the exploitation of women, they’re interested in controlling exactly what it means to be a woman. This isn’t a crusade against porn, it’s a crusade against progress.

                                        Porn bans are a wedge used by conservatives to widen the criteria once the ban is in place.

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                                        • C coolmatt@lemmy.ca

                                          Well not sure about you, but I’d like to agree rape and incest is pretty fucked up so yeah it probably should be removed, so why should people have to see that on their computers in the first place?

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                                          toomanypancakes
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                                          I’m not a fan of the games. I also know that these groups also consider certain people, like lgbt people, to be just as morally impermissable. If this is acceptable for them to do, why not censor all queer content for the same groups? Where does it stop?

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