This suggests AMD has comparable GPUs, in some cases better, some cases worse. People seeking diminishing return gains will never be happy. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-vs-amd/

Not as many as you’d think. The 5000 series is not great for AI because they have like no VRAM, with respect to their price.

4x3090 or 3060 homelabs are the standard, heh.

To be fair, AMD is trying as hard as they can to not be appealing there. They inexplicably participate in the VRAM cartel when… they have no incentive to.

I don’t get this.

Well, if this includes laptops, I get that. Just try to find a dGPU laptop with AMD or Arc these days.

…But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why? For gaming specifically, they seem pretty great in their price brackets.

Maybe prebuilts are overshadowing that too?

They need dGPUs worth buying for HPC, other than servers that cost more than a house, so devs will actually target them.

That article is a year old and is missing the latest generation of cards. Neither AMD nor Nvidia produce those GPUs anymore. AMDs best GPU from their 9000 series competes with Nvidias 5070/5070ti. The 5090 and 5080 are unmatched.

Their data centre division is pulling in 41 billion revenue vs 4 billion consumer market.

NVIDIA Q2 Profit Soars 59% as Blackwell AI Surge Fuels Record Revenue

NVIDIA reported Q2 revenue of $46.7 billion, up 56% year-on-year, with profit surging 59% on booming demand for its Blackwell AI platform.

Yahoo Finance (finance.yahoo.com)

Yeah. What does that have to do with home setups? No one is putting an H200 or L40 in their homelab.

Ehh, 5% market share is not fine.

AMD’s server GPU division is not fine, either, so don’t bet on that saving them.

AMD/Intel graphics divisions need R&D money from sales to keep up, and if this keeps up, they’re gonna drop out of dGPUs and stick to integrated graphics (which Intel is already at extremely severe risk of doing).

Kind of my point, these were high end and still usable by 95% of people. Everyone is chasing 1% gains for twice the price. I have an new RTX via work equipment for rendering, I play games on the side but that RTX dosnt really make the gameplay that much better. It looks great with the shine on metal, or water reflections, but when totally immersed in game play that stuff is wasted

Honestly stuff like Unreal’s Lumen or Crytek’s SVOGI has obsoleted RTX. It looks freaking incredible, and runs fast, and you can put the rendering budget to literally anything else; who in their right mind would develop RTX over that?

Does the original title mention home setups?

Rocking an R9 280 atm

IMO there’s zero reason to buy an nvidia gpu if there’s a similarly performing amd card because the price will just be better.

Meanwhile framework’s new AMD offering has nvidia slop in it. Just why. We want AMD. Give us AMD.

I do local ai stuff and i get more support with nvidia cuda, and you usually get exclusive gaming features first on nvidia like dlss, rtx, and voice

I wish they shipped with more vram though

My theory is that they’re just scared to annoy Nvidia too much. If they priced their GPUs so as to really increase their market share, Nvidia might retaliate. And Nvidia definitely has the deeper pockets. AMD has no chance to win a price war.

I’m doing my part. I picked up an Arc B580.

But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why?

Its always been this way: they want AMD and Intel to compete so Nvidia gets cheaper, not that they will ever buy AMD or Intel. Gamers seem to be the laziest, most easily influenced consumer sector ever.

If Intel/AMD provides an LLM capable card, by the time I get around to making a big boy server, then that’s what I’ll get. Ideally Intel for the sweet AV1 encoding and Quick sync. Then again, if the card runs LLMs, then transcodes won’t be a problem. Cuda looks nice, but fuck Nvidia, I’ll go without.

Don’t look at me, I’m an Android gamer these days, and my home lab runs on integrated Intel graphics.

Maybe one day I’ll build a gaming rig, but mine’s so old now (gtx970) that I’m pretty much starting from scratch. I can’t justify the expense to make a rig from nothing when my Retroid pocket is >£300 and I can play most everything PS2/Gamecube and before.