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NVIDIA GPU market domination hits almost 100%, AMD dwindles, Intel non-existent

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  • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

    Kind of my point, these were high end and still usable by 95% of people. Everyone is chasing 1% gains for twice the price. I have an new RTX via work equipment for rendering, I play games on the side but that RTX dosnt really make the gameplay that much better. It looks great with the shine on metal, or water reflections, but when totally immersed in game play that stuff is wasted

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    brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    #21

    Honestly stuff like Unreal’s Lumen or Crytek’s SVOGI has obsoleted RTX. It looks freaking incredible, and runs fast, and you can put the rendering budget to literally anything else; who in their right mind would develop RTX over that?

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    • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

      Yeah. What does that have to do with home setups? No one is putting an H200 or L40 in their homelab.

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      zqwzzle@lemmy.ca
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      Does the original title mention home setups?

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        Grant_M
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        #23

        Rocking an R9 280 atm 👍

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          brotha_jaufrey@lemmy.world
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          IMO there’s zero reason to buy an nvidia gpu if there’s a similarly performing amd card because the price will just be better.

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          • 9 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world

            Who the hell keeps buying nvidia? Stop it.

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            lemonysplit@lemmy.ca
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            Meanwhile framework’s new AMD offering has nvidia slop in it. Just why. We want AMD. Give us AMD.

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            • 9 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world

              Who the hell keeps buying nvidia? Stop it.

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              darkkite@lemmy.ml
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              I do local ai stuff and i get more support with nvidia cuda, and you usually get exclusive gaming features first on nvidia like dlss, rtx, and voice

              I wish they shipped with more vram though

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              • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                To be fair, AMD is trying as hard as they can to not be appealing there. They inexplicably participate in the VRAM cartel when… they have no incentive to.

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                Diplomjodler
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                My theory is that they’re just scared to annoy Nvidia too much. If they priced their GPUs so as to really increase their market share, Nvidia might retaliate. And Nvidia definitely has the deeper pockets. AMD has no chance to win a price war.

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                • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                  I don’t get this.

                  Well, if this includes laptops, I get that. Just try to find a dGPU laptop with AMD or Arc these days.


                  …But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why? For gaming specifically, they seem pretty great in their price brackets.

                  Maybe prebuilts are overshadowing that too?

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                  ramble81@lemmy.zip
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                  #28

                  I’m doing my part. I picked up an Arc B580.

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                  • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                    I don’t get this.

                    Well, if this includes laptops, I get that. Just try to find a dGPU laptop with AMD or Arc these days.


                    …But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why? For gaming specifically, they seem pretty great in their price brackets.

                    Maybe prebuilts are overshadowing that too?

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                    empireoflove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why?

                    Its always been this way: they want AMD and Intel to compete so Nvidia gets cheaper, not that they will ever buy AMD or Intel. Gamers seem to be the laziest, most easily influenced consumer sector ever.

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                      fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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                      #30

                      If Intel/AMD provides an LLM capable card, by the time I get around to making a big boy server, then that’s what I’ll get. Ideally Intel for the sweet AV1 encoding and Quick sync. Then again, if the card runs LLMs, then transcodes won’t be a problem. Cuda looks nice, but fuck Nvidia, I’ll go without.

                      Don’t look at me, I’m an Android gamer these days, and my home lab runs on integrated Intel graphics.

                      Maybe one day I’ll build a gaming rig, but mine’s so old now (gtx970) that I’m pretty much starting from scratch. I can’t justify the expense to make a rig from nothing when my Retroid pocket is >£300 and I can play most everything PS2/Gamecube and before.

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                      • Z zqwzzle@lemmy.ca

                        Does the original title mention home setups?

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                        brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                        #31

                        It mentions desktop GPUs, which are not part of this market cap survey.

                        Basically I don’t see what the server market has to do with desktop dGPU market share. Why did you bring that up?

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                        • B brotha_jaufrey@lemmy.world

                          IMO there’s zero reason to buy an nvidia gpu if there’s a similarly performing amd card because the price will just be better.

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                          rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          I love my high end 1440p165hz IPs G-Sync monitor.

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                          • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                            I don’t get this.

                            Well, if this includes laptops, I get that. Just try to find a dGPU laptop with AMD or Arc these days.


                            …But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why? For gaming specifically, they seem pretty great in their price brackets.

                            Maybe prebuilts are overshadowing that too?

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                            Pycorax
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                            We’ve come to a point where PC gaming is so mainstream that the average PC gamer likely doesn’t even know that AMD makes GPUs. They’ll just complain about the prices and then pay for Nvidia directly or indirectly via prebuilts.

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                              humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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                              Just saw a “leak video” that 9070 is outselling 5070, and so 5070 and 5080 supers are being released very soon.

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                              • P Pycorax

                                We’ve come to a point where PC gaming is so mainstream that the average PC gamer likely doesn’t even know that AMD makes GPUs. They’ll just complain about the prices and then pay for Nvidia directly or indirectly via prebuilts.

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                                brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                                #35

                                I buy this.

                                And I can’t really blame people for not diving into components and wanting stuff to just… Work.

                                No one (on average) knows their graphics card off the top of their head.

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                                • DiplomjodlerD Diplomjodler

                                  My theory is that they’re just scared to annoy Nvidia too much. If they priced their GPUs so as to really increase their market share, Nvidia might retaliate. And Nvidia definitely has the deeper pockets. AMD has no chance to win a price war.

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                                  reallyactuallyfrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com
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                                  #36

                                  Seems like a weird strategy to not compete out of fear of success.

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                                  • B brotha_jaufrey@lemmy.world

                                    IMO there’s zero reason to buy an nvidia gpu if there’s a similarly performing amd card because the price will just be better.

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                                    garry@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    Amd promised a msrp of 600 for the 9070xt, it rarely goes below 750. All amd had to do was stick to their prices and have ample stock. Amd is satisfied with second place

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                                    • L lemonysplit@lemmy.ca

                                      Meanwhile framework’s new AMD offering has nvidia slop in it. Just why. We want AMD. Give us AMD.

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                                      notthebees@reddthat.com
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                                      They did. There’s just no new amd mobile gpus. Like I think they only have 100 watt tdp or Max cooling to work with and the 7700S is the fastest amd mobile gpu currently.

                                      If amd makes a new mobile gpu, framework will probably make it into a module.

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                                      • Grant_MG Grant_M

                                        Rocking an R9 280 atm 👍

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                                        twiddletwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        I only upgraded from my 380 this year

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                                        • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

                                          They need dGPUs worth buying for HPC, other than servers that cost more than a house, so devs will actually target them.

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                                          notthebees@reddthat.com
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                                          They have the hardware for hpc, with their instinct cards. Software support is slowly growing. Rocm is fine, ZLUDA is pain and suffering on amd cards. I have a 6800xt, so old but decently supported and even then it’s annoying

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