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When will America realize that this is not a joke. They'll be laughing right up to the goosestepping.

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  • J jimw@mander.xyz

    That’s exactly what the people being deported from the US are feeling.

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    tiredofsametab
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    Indeed. It’s terrible and it’s also the reason we don’t visit family in the US (my wife is not a US citizen and barely speaks English). I do not support it, I voted against the current administration, and I have removed as many US companies as possible from my life.

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    • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

      If Greenland was actually invaded, it’s part of the EU in all but name, and the whole EU would now be at war with the US. Even if we have no treaty (outside of now-completely dead NATO) and don’t join in, the US probably invades us to make sure, ala Iceland in WWII.

      I guess there’s a possibility Denmark cuts and runs. In that case yeah, there’s probably nothing we can do.

      If we were invaded and had a treaty with Denmark, the US would be at war with Denmark and hopefully the WWI cascading treaties thing would kick in and, again, the US would be at war with the EU. And probably the UK too since they have proximity to both the EU, and us through our sovereign - ignoring one is possible, but both seems like a tall order.

      Of course, the goal is to deter invasion in the first place.

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      niquarl@lemmy.ml
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      It is part of the European Union and also NATO. In theory if there was an invasion then Denmark could call their NATO allies to defend it

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      • circav@lemmy.caC circav@lemmy.ca

        And Canadas next. This is not a drill. The orange shitgibbon and followers are not joking. Canadians will need to defend this country ourselves - even as our leaders continue to appease and suck up to the rogue US regime.

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        raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca
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        Exactly.

        Confirm your trusted networks and trusted comms. Start planning ahead. Store 72h of food and water, make sure you have spare gas for generators. Establish meeting points. Stock up on first aid and medical supplies. Set a family rule for breaking news: “confirm before share” (at least two reputable sources; pause on ragebait, defend against disinfo social fracture. Get to know your neighbours, get involved in community, learn patterns.

        If you have firearms make sure you have needed ammo and supplies.

        If you have budget, learn to build and fly drones… Start with a cheap sim.

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        • niquarl@lemmy.mlN niquarl@lemmy.ml

          It is part of the European Union and also NATO. In theory if there was an invasion then Denmark could call their NATO allies to defend it

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          canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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          See, but the US is half of NATO. One major NATO member fighting another is not handled in the rules. It’s just a dead letter at that point.

          (Also Greenland isn’t technically in the EU, but I think it’s close enough for these purposes)

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          • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

            Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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            iegod
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            This is done because there are no consequences, no repercussions. A convicted felon and rapist is in charge instead of in jail. The checks and balances of their system have long since failed.

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            • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

              Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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              jarix@lemmy.world
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              I might need to borrow your axe there bud. Wouldn’t mind an extra set of hands to wield it if needed

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              • S swingingthelamp@midwest.social

                Organizing also gets you labeled as terrorists. Just ask CAIR, and soon many others.

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                beardededsquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                True enough, but it’s harder to deal with a movement that would be guerilla in its execution compared to going out blasting in a blaze of glory.

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                • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

                  Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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                  hanrahan
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                  When will the rest of the world ? Not a peep from my shitty governemt here in Australia, we just keep doubling down and buying weapons from the US, nuclear submarines of all the stupid things.

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                  • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

                    Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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                    wilco@lemmy.zip
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                    Republicans want to add new states and are looking for conservative ones so they can keep control.

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                    • T tehn00bi@lemmy.world

                      I’d like a faster processor.

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                      k0e3@lemmy.ca
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                      Feet first, too.

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                      • hanrahanH hanrahan

                        When will the rest of the world ? Not a peep from my shitty governemt here in Australia, we just keep doubling down and buying weapons from the US, nuclear submarines of all the stupid things.

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                        alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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                        You’re gonna need that submarine if you go to war with your biggest trading partner at the behest of America.

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                        • S swingingthelamp@midwest.social

                          What people hear when you say things like this: Ah, so this is business as usual, and while it sucks for the people affected, keeping my head down should continue working to keep me out of trouble. I’m powerless to fix this stuff, anyway, so I should just dissociate and worry about my own problems.

                          And then they don’t show up for elections…

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                          asg101@lemmy.ca
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                          Ah yes, elections will fix everything in the USA, just vote harder next time.

                          Just to make what I am saying as clear as I can without someone putting words in my mouth: The existing system is functioning as designed and as it has ALWAYS “worked” , and if the people of the world are going to have a chance to survive they need to destroy the current one, and replace it with one that cares about people and the planet, not just profits.

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                          • hanrahanH hanrahan

                            When will the rest of the world ? Not a peep from my shitty governemt here in Australia, we just keep doubling down and buying weapons from the US, nuclear submarines of all the stupid things.

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                            raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca
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                            Hey cousin!

                            We just bought some over the horizon radar from you guys!

                            Unfortunately we’re also contemplating buying some locked down F35s that are sure to be kill switched by the US when they decide that they want our resources. I think we need to accept that the F35s are not going to happen, and instead get the Gripens. At this point it’s seems like the height of stupidity to trust them, especially with our military hardware.

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                            • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

                              Hey cousin!

                              We just bought some over the horizon radar from you guys!

                              Unfortunately we’re also contemplating buying some locked down F35s that are sure to be kill switched by the US when they decide that they want our resources. I think we need to accept that the F35s are not going to happen, and instead get the Gripens. At this point it’s seems like the height of stupidity to trust them, especially with our military hardware.

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                              dermanus@lemmy.ca
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                              Yeah, that combined with the big servicing challenges for the F35s really makes me think getting them isn’t the right move. For once the glacial pace of Canadian military procurement helped us.

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                              • Z zephorah@discuss.online

                                There are many who actually believe the midterms will solve this.

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                                resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                I don’t, but it won’t hurt to voice how people think of the Admin and Congress.

                                Voicing dissent against the Admin shrinks the permission structure of its actions. Trump feels emboldened if the people have his back, and trepidatious if not.

                                Trepidation to a child-like tyrant might mean the difference between nuclear launch codes being used or not.

                                Ultimately elections mean nothing consequential in the US, but that doesn’t mean they can’t influence some politicians.

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                                • A asg101@lemmy.ca

                                  Ah yes, elections will fix everything in the USA, just vote harder next time.

                                  Just to make what I am saying as clear as I can without someone putting words in my mouth: The existing system is functioning as designed and as it has ALWAYS “worked” , and if the people of the world are going to have a chance to survive they need to destroy the current one, and replace it with one that cares about people and the planet, not just profits.

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                                  swingingthelamp@midwest.social
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                                  Well, we have plenty of people on Lemmy who place the blame for this situation on the Americans who didn’t vote for Kamala Harris, as if they weighed the stakes, deliberated, and decided affirmatively that not voting was the correct action. It’s like the people who believe that have never met actual humans. Denial and dissociation ‘works’ very well for us as a psychological defense mechanism.

                                  Now, if we have any hope, we need people to work together to shut down the fascists. I’m just sayin’ that this here is a much better way to put it to motivate them, while telling them that “it’s always been this way” and “the U.S. is simply evil” is a great way to push people back into denial and dissociation.

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                                  • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

                                    Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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                                    bigtuffal@lemmy.zip
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                                    Hi, failed expat here. Tried to move to Guelph legally in 2023-24 because Nazification of the USA was incredibly obvious to anyone who reads. Canadians changed their laws to be racist to Indians and excluded me, even though I am a white masters degree holder who had professional connections in the region.

                                    When I die fighting ICE outside of some middle school because I caught them trying to kidnap people at my work, know that I would have lived in peace. I literally just wanted to eat delicious cheesecake in Guelph with my hot wife (who doesn’t have full rights in the fucking USA).

                                    *edit: I want the people who are downvoting this to explain to me which part exactly they disagree with, because I think the implication is pretty disgusting generally.

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                                    • B bigtuffal@lemmy.zip

                                      Hi, failed expat here. Tried to move to Guelph legally in 2023-24 because Nazification of the USA was incredibly obvious to anyone who reads. Canadians changed their laws to be racist to Indians and excluded me, even though I am a white masters degree holder who had professional connections in the region.

                                      When I die fighting ICE outside of some middle school because I caught them trying to kidnap people at my work, know that I would have lived in peace. I literally just wanted to eat delicious cheesecake in Guelph with my hot wife (who doesn’t have full rights in the fucking USA).

                                      *edit: I want the people who are downvoting this to explain to me which part exactly they disagree with, because I think the implication is pretty disgusting generally.

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                                      randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                                      What a weird comment.

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                                      • B bigtuffal@lemmy.zip

                                        Hi, failed expat here. Tried to move to Guelph legally in 2023-24 because Nazification of the USA was incredibly obvious to anyone who reads. Canadians changed their laws to be racist to Indians and excluded me, even though I am a white masters degree holder who had professional connections in the region.

                                        When I die fighting ICE outside of some middle school because I caught them trying to kidnap people at my work, know that I would have lived in peace. I literally just wanted to eat delicious cheesecake in Guelph with my hot wife (who doesn’t have full rights in the fucking USA).

                                        *edit: I want the people who are downvoting this to explain to me which part exactly they disagree with, because I think the implication is pretty disgusting generally.

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                                        raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca
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                                        #194

                                        Hi friend, and I mean that sincerely, I’m truly sorry that you weren’t able to get into Canada. And I hear you about the attitudes towards Indians… It’s abhorrent and a product of the anti-immigrant rhetoric that the right wing has imported from the US.

                                        One of my best friends immigrated from India a couple of decades ago. He married a childhood friend and they slowly built a life together, now own 60 acres and have two kids. Hearing his story made me proud of this country, and I believe we are hurting ourselves by letting partisan reactionaries set the message on immigration. My family on my mother’s side immigrated from Eastern Europe after WW2. I’m first generation, so I understand what immigrant families go though, and especially the work ethic that the majority of them embody.

                                        I hope you do not give up, and please, please stay safe. I react strongly to the increasing American threat, but it’s easy to forget there are people like you who never wanted any of this. I hope you can join us soon.

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                                        • V velindora@lemmy.cafe

                                          Yeah well we had “No Kings” and people came together, yet nothing happened. A few million people showed up and then went home.

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                                          wizardoffrobozz@lemmy.ca
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                                          No Kings was an absolute fucking joke from the start and everyone there virtue signaling is part of the problem.

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