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PC Gamers Abandoning Windows 11 for Linux with Higher FPS & Fewer Interruptions

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  • K knexcar@lemmy.world

    What does screwing up mean in this context?

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    Spaniard
    wrote on last edited by spaniard@lemmy.world
    #216

    Edited some files and had trouble login in, had to go live iso and edit them back.

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    • S Spice Hoarder

      Linux is at a point where we really shouldn’t be using distro specific installers.

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      AceOnTrack
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      Linux was at that point two decades ago. The dogmatic infighting between Linux developers users is ultimately what prevents Linux from being actually useful as a desktop OS.

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      • H halcyoncmdr

        This is exactly the type of shit I’ve been trying to explain to the Linux fanboys for years and all of them dismiss outright.

        Until simple shit like this is easy for the average person, Linux will never replace Windows as a default OS option for regular users. 99% of people are scared of config files and the terminal, and they’re still just too commonly needed in every distro.

        A LOT of work has been done to minimize it, but there’s always still basic functionality that just isn’t in the GUI. That’s not an issue for most of us here… But it is for most people. Fediverse users are a small minority.

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        JustEnoughDucks
        wrote on last edited by justenoughducks@feddit.nl
        #218

        It’s funny, i use both. Work is Windows, Linux at home.

        90% of troubles literally come down to what you are used to and expect. I have had hundreds of problems assisting with company IT that I never would have had on Linux. People just ignore it or write it off as “expected”, but when something they doesn’t work on linux, they go crazy and say that Linux just doesn’t work. Windows has just as many basic functionality things that don’t work, if not more.

        Linux isn’t perfect, but work is being done to fix it, where in windows, the support tells you to fuck off, try the only 2 GUI tools they have, then enter random command line commands and if that doesn’t fix it, fuck off.

        Examples:

        • Searching in the start menu literally won’t return the program if the program doesn’t start with what you are searching instead of simply “contains” like every other search on earth

        • File search in fundamentally garbage on windows compared to Linux (both GUI). Not to mention that until last year there was no option to find where the fuck the file was in windows without ending the search and having to start the search over (hell on network shares). Luckily it has gotten better

        • One drive forcing itself as default, sync problems, losing files, etc… That often has to be fixed through powershell. Not to mention lying to you that files are synced when they are not.

        • Teams silently installing a random DLL that causes teams to bootloop endlessly, no resources online about it until last year late where you had to manually console command your way out of it via powershell

        • Microphone completely just not working at all. No possible way to re-enable it via settings, control panel, manual controls, registry, etc… It wasn’t broken. Microsoft secretly disabled it in the background and you had to install the old version of the audio troubleshooter because their new one is AI slop and it would say “oh it was disabled, I will re-enable it” when literally every single other tool in windows said it was enabled and working fine. This was a problem with >10% of people. Again, the GUI wouldn’t fix it until you downloaded a sketchy old version of a troubleshooter.

        • installing windows without internet working. They are making it almost impossible, actively. Literally the single most basic thing

        • Microsoft office being layered on top of each other all in one gigantic pile because one font was installed from a path that it didn’t like this brought PowerPoint in my old company to a halt for days

        • Font blurring when moving windows between monitors (especially PDFs). Linux doesn’t have this problem that I have seen. Windows fonts look like smeared shit after dragging them from screens of different sizes

        • If one single file has an issue in one single office project e.g. a warning dialog open or a frozen excel window, all office programs are no longer able to be closed, and often even interacted with. That is like the basic of the basic of having multiple program instances open. I have seen unorganized people with 10 excel instances open literally have to restart their computer because no office windows will respond enough to even find the problem instance

        • Update hangs and failures are a daily occurance in windows. I haven’t had an update fail for years in Linux and when it did, it said “this is why” where windows just says “try again” and keeps failing. Basic basic functionality.

        • pathing are the worst thing ever in windows. You have import library after library to get windows paths to work in different codebases where in Linux it just works.

        • windows and printers… You know how everyone has problems with printers? Yeah, a lot of that is from windows shit printer drivers. With Linux, I haven’t had a print job fail in years. In windows, sometimes it will serially send a PDF to the printer, corrupt itself, and balloon the 10MB PDF size to 10GB and overload the printer until you have to hard reset it.

        • windows constantly resets your printer settings in word, even after you manually set printer settings in the OS. How many times people have printed double sided because auto-switches back after you change it. That is so basic.

        • SVChost or “system interrupts” eating 60-90% CPU for minuten on end where there are no programs running, making everything work extremely slowly and lag all over the place with no way to fix it.

        • not going to sleep. Windows sleep is so damn broken ever since they fucked with sleep levels. My new work laptop will literally sleep and turn itself off after a few hours (only if it is plugged in) so I have to unplug it before leaving. My old one with the exact same power settings works fine. Not to mention with modern sleep, laptops will just turn themselves on in a backpack and overheat and dump their battery to 0 for no reason. Windows had sleep right in 7 and then decided to completely break it all and increase power consumption 100x for 1s faster wakeup times… In Linux. If you tell it to go to sleep, it goes to sleep and doesn’t wake up until you wake it up.

        I could go on for an hour, literally.

        These are very basic functionality that is critically broken or hot garbage and just works on Linux. Again, there are tons of things wrong in Linux too like other users have mentioned, it comes down to the problems the individual user is used to having and living with.

        People are learning to deal with a different set of broken things and problems while not seeing the previous problems they had to deal with invisibly just work (because that is how the human brain works).

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        • A alexlost@lemmy.world

          The right never lets go of anything. Ever

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          prenatal_confusion@feddit.org
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          Gotta admit a lol for that comment.

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          • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS skullgrid@lemmy.world

            I know the hot thing is Bazzite but if you want to use it as a desktop as well, please at least use Fedora Kinoite or Silverblue.

            why? other than not being a “main branch” os I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it, it seems quite white glove.

            It’s atomic and fedora, which are also the same issues with silverblue and kinoite.

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            prenatal_confusion@feddit.org
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            Yeah didn’t have problems with it as a desktop.

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            • F flatfire@lemmy.ca

              I think they were getting at Flatpaks, Snaps or AppImages (my personal favourite)

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              zink@programming.dev
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              Why do you prefer them to flatpaks? Genuinely curious. I’ve only used appimages once or twice.

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              • R reallyactuallyfrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com

                88 comments and nobody has noted that the article itself looks like AI slop?

                Lots of signals here: the writing style, bland and wishy-washy use of statistics, bullets and formatting that arbitrarily organize without adding value, the rule-of-threes clauses, and redundant details, the intro summary list, the lack of sourcing links, and “written” by an author whose bio specifically mentions AI.

                I specifically looked for backup to the assertion about higher FPS and it’s just a random unsourced percentage. Maybe it’s true but this article has no value as a source.

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                #222

                Bold to assume that anyone is reading more than the title haha

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                • A AceOnTrack

                  Linux was at that point two decades ago. The dogmatic infighting between Linux developers users is ultimately what prevents Linux from being actually useful as a desktop OS.

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                  bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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                  #223

                  Lots of duplicated effort happens across the system. Nowadays we have more desktop environments than ever, while the application side still has major gaps.

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                  • Z zink@programming.dev

                    Yeah we should just choose a winner and go with their system.

                    This should be easy!

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                    savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                    #224

                    You mean like we did with MSDOS?

                    (Quietly leaves the room)

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                      zamboni_driver@lemmy.ca
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                      #225

                      What in the fake news is this source ??

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                      • Z zink@programming.dev

                        Yeah we should just choose a winner and go with their system.

                        This should be easy!

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                        vandsjov@feddit.dk
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                        [Insert XKCD about adding a standard that will replace all the other standards]

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                        • B buddahriffic@lemmy.world

                          I think the problem with that is that the distros are each essentially personal projects. Some individual or team has their vision of what they think Linux should be and make their own effort to make it. There isn’t just 3 big distros because there’s more than 3 teams that want to make their own. And since no one has control over what distro anyone else can make, each person’s only options are to start their own distro, work on someone else’s, both (and more, since there’s no limit on how many distros you can contribute to), or neither.

                          Though personally, I think more options is good. Just like with the lemmyverse, if admins for one distro make choices you don’t like, you’re not stuck with them because you can either switch distros or start your own fork if you think it was on the right path before that bad choice.

                          All I can say for sure is that, from my experience, Fedora is ready for the masses (at least the technically competent who are willing to learn, the others are just as lost on windows, outside of their usual activities).

                          The downvotes might be because it’s not something anyone can do.

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                          freeman@feddit.org
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                          Well put. So if you understand the whole situation like that, it seems that I want to forbid those indie devs producing their own distro. Which is not at all what I want.

                          I think it would be better, if most of the indie devs would join a bigger movement like debian, kde (or one of the many more), which try to produce solid bases or a distro for the masses, instead of making their own niche product which is only supported for how long they are interested in it.

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                          • S Spice Hoarder

                            Linux is at a point where we really shouldn’t be using distro specific installers.

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                            bluewing@lemmy.world
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                            That is what freedom is about. Anyone can choose to walk their own path to hell as they see fit. Otherwise you just end up with Windows all over again.

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                            • P puretryout@lemmy.world

                              what a flatpac is and why people hate it,

                              Huh, most people actually like Flatpak, and for good reasons too.

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                              bluewing@lemmy.world
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                              Most people do like flatpaks, I use them because I use Kinonite and Atomic Budgie, but there are those people that don’t like them or any other 3rd party universal packaging format. it’s kind of a Luddite attitude if you ask me.

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                              • B bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works

                                If you know what flatseal is and how to set permissions, it gets a lot better.

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                                bluewing@lemmy.world
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                                Flatseal, flat sweep, and warehouse will manage all your flatpaks as you see fit. And Gear Lever for managing all your appImages.

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                                • B bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works

                                  I tried to like vim. But nano just works.

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                                  bluewing@lemmy.world
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                                  #231

                                  Nano is good for quick things and I rather like it. And I’ve been using VIM for years.

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                                  • wraithgear@lemmy.worldW wraithgear@lemmy.world

                                    i’m my case i am using apparently old hardware, i ran into the following issues with my set up:

                                    • my usb cable for the mic was crap. and because the signal was flaky, Bazzite put the port on low priority mode where it only checks in when asked
                                    • the usb cable was insufficient to push the data, i swear it came with the mic. still thing this was a dubious conclusion, but a new cable was 5$
                                    • Bazzite would ask my USB speaker and mic within milliseconds of receiving power what their designation was, and the controllers in the devices responded so slowly that Bazzite gave them new names and put them in passive mode. i had to bake in the command to treat that like legacy equipment (ouch) to sit and listen for a reply however long it takes.
                                    • the speakers are flipped in meat space, due to outlets and the length of available cable, i can not change this, so i had to flip it in software, i was recommended easyeffects, but pipewire hated its guts, and i was better off learning to bake it in via the terminal after i was able to find the devices actual name once i got them out of passive jail above.
                                    • i had to bin the flat pack versions of discord and my web browser Vivaldi. don’t want to get into a browser war i have had enough trying to siphon through redacted reddit posts about that

                                    won’t lie i had to use AI to RTFM though chat GPT bricked my stuff more then i should have let it. gemini was better at this

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                                    thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    You say older hardware so just curious if you happen to have an Asus mobo? If we are talking AM4 era, heads up that Asus mobos saw a lot of firmware revisions in 2025 including patches for usb-related issues. I have a b550 board that has been troublesome but seems a bit more stable with the latest firmware.

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                                    • T thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      You say older hardware so just curious if you happen to have an Asus mobo? If we are talking AM4 era, heads up that Asus mobos saw a lot of firmware revisions in 2025 including patches for usb-related issues. I have a b550 board that has been troublesome but seems a bit more stable with the latest firmware.

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                                      wraithgear@lemmy.world
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                                      i have a TUFF gaming motherboard. so yes i do have an asus motherboard. i may have to flash the bios, but that’s a bit of a yikes. i may want to replace my battery back up first

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                                      • T tea@lemmy.today

                                        I know I’m supposed to go that way, but I went the other 🙃. I’ve been using micro and it has been awesome working with my mouse when I want. What is more basic than Fisher Price? A teething set of plastic keys?

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                                        Jerkface (any/all)
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                                        A blankie.

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                                        • S Spice Hoarder

                                          I mean, obviously I’m not advocating that you install pipewire or pipewire plugins as appimages.

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                                          rumba@lemmy.zip
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                                          My last flatpack fight was with OBS. It refused to load external plugins, and also made v4l unsolvable at the time.

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