Carney’s Message to the World: The Rules No Longer Protect You | The Walrus
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Correct!
Dudes to small to cause a gluck
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He’d bend over and ask for Canada to take more. Nothing I’ve read from him sounds like a proper leader of this country. He’s as whiny as a toddler like the neighbor’s ‘leader’. Calling that thing a leader is laughable, he couldn’t lead a train on the track unless there was a pile of gold in sight.
He lost so bad he got a pity seat and is causing his party to collapse
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PP at the world economic forum:
GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GAH… We need to support our allies in seizing Greenland GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK
He wouldn’t even have been there (nor any other CPC MPs). He wants to be Canada’s Trump so bad but he’s so bad at it that he’s somehow even less likable than the actual demented fascist child molester himself
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Thank God Pierre Pollivre wasn’t elected or this would be a much different story.
At some point during the speech this popped in my head:
I just cannot imagine the world of shit we’d be living in if he had won the election. Even since, he’s contributed absolutely nothing to the political discourse in this country. And he’s changing seats, again.
(And I know Draper is an asshole, I just mean the whole vibe is what came to mind. I don’t think I’ve heard Carney even mention Polievre since letting him have a seat with the by-election).
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He lost so bad he got a pity seat and is causing his party to collapse
The pity seat isn’t good enough for him, they’re going to run him in another seat.
I don’t know if that means he simply hates it there, or the party plans on dumping him and returning that seat to a party faithful.
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I know that many here and myself included, don’t appreciate his anti-worker example of the “Workers of the World Unite” being used as the lie of a corrupt regime…
However, this was a profound speech, and I would say one of Carney’s best since his election as Prime Minister. A great leader recognizes their own leadership and government’s faults to try and find the best way forward.
I think he’s just a capitalist banker with agenda to push capitalist friendly policies but in the context of how he compares it to rules based order (a potentially good thing) I don’t think this is what he meant. He says we pretend we have rules based order because it was a good thing even though we know at heart that strong powers can act outside the rules. The shop owners pretend the workers are united (a good thing) even though they know the government is corrupt and does not support the workers.
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This was a historic speech and I sincerely hope the European leaders get the message. It was also very surprising to hear him lay bare the problem with the old world order and talking about a new one that would live up to its ideals. There is more to Carney than I thought.
I still oppose many of his domestic policies that I consider too right wing. But that’s what a democracy is about.
Listening to him again reminded me of '08 when he helped lead us out of the Wall St shit storm. It’s the main reason I voted for him too. He tells the truth - no sugar coating, no dumb cliches, no lies to make you feel better.
I’m not happy with everything he’s done (see Bill C-2) but when things get rough he lays the cards on the table and says it like it is.
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Rather poetic less than 24 hours after Trump paraded out a map with American flags over Canada, Greenland, and Venezuela.
Don’t worry. Trump is speaking in Davos tomorrow.
Oh happy days.
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If you’ve only read the headlines and not read the actual speech , you’re missing out on a lot of important details.
Edit: Updated link
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This was a historic speech and I sincerely hope the European leaders get the message. It was also very surprising to hear him lay bare the problem with the old world order and talking about a new one that would live up to its ideals. There is more to Carney than I thought.
I still oppose many of his domestic policies that I consider too right wing. But that’s what a democracy is about.
I watched the whole speech. I am so proud to be Canadian!! I love that we have an educated, worldly, Prime Minister. He’s fucking amazing!
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He’d bend over and ask for Canada to take more. Nothing I’ve read from him sounds like a proper leader of this country. He’s as whiny as a toddler like the neighbor’s ‘leader’. Calling that thing a leader is laughable, he couldn’t lead a train on the track unless there was a pile of gold in sight.
I’ve got some bad news for you. The only reason he isn’t our prime minister is because Trump happened.
An UNcomfortable amount of your fellow Canadians actual support that guy
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I think he’s saying nice words, but I’ll believe them when I see actions. I should preface this with, I understand running a country is like sailing a massive ship. It takes time to correct course. Additionally, it would be great if they worked with the NDP and seemed like they cared more lol.
Canada keeps tip toeing around the whole Palestinian genocide. I assume because it’s largely american backed, but if what he says is true, then I would like to see them speak up more. They talk about Greenland and Ukraine but it would be nice for them to…be equal.
Additionally in terms of the economy, we might be largely well educated but many of the people I know have degrees, diplomas and even masters and have had a hell of a time finding worthwhile work (if any) for the past 6 years. Some have had better luck than others, but like…damn it doesn’t seem like we’re prospering here. Cost of living has skyrocketed. My outlook for the future isn’t looking great. I largely have no idea if I’ll be living comfortably in a decade or be worse off. It’s difficult if not impossible to plan for a future.
Carney already told Trump to pound sand on the “Board of Peace”.
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I’ve got some bad news for you. The only reason he isn’t our prime minister is because Trump happened.
An UNcomfortable amount of your fellow Canadians actual support that guy
SupportED. Not so much anymore.
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I watched the whole speech. I am so proud to be Canadian!! I love that we have an educated, worldly, Prime Minister. He’s fucking amazing!
hes obviously the best option we can realistically hope for in our current social/political structure. HOWEVER. hes a politician, and a very wealthy banker. so dont miss the mountain for the trees here.
quietly pushing digital ID, AI, increased surveillance, decreased personal privacy, subverting charter rights and constitutional rights, giving our information without warrant to the police, our government, and the united states government and corporations, using tax payer funding to pay for private interest projects that directly undermine green energy and expand american, and other foreign financial interest in our countries resources. removing canadians ability to defend themselves against an apparantly imminent foreign invasion by reducing firearm availability and punishing legal gun owners as a result of an issue directly correlated to illegal firearms imported from the united states. all the while increasing police funding and military funding which also directly puts tax payer money into the pockets of military contractors, foreign and domestic. limiting the ability to defend our sovereignity to government employees rather than average citizens.
he gives a great speech, he is much better than pierre poilievre, however, he does not represent 99% of canadians, he represents the rich, industry, and established/emerging monopolies above all else. the new world order he speaks of is one where we will continue to struggle financially as workers so that corporations and the elite can maintain stable control over a productive yet exhausted population. snowballing the concentration of wealth and power to the elite, and new emerging elite class. while reducing ownership for consumers in virtually every single sector you can imagine. fuelling our economy with an indebted population.
the new boot on our heads is just a bit more polished and expensive, but it is still a boot on our heads. and its going to be a bit heavier than it was before. but with the right marketing, we will always beg for more, thinking its for our own good.
so unless you are already quite well off, dont expect a grand shift in your fortunes and affordability. not just because of him, or trump, or a new economic model, but the class that they both represent. the elites are shifting the board, and the people, as always, will bear the brunt of it all. while they make off like faceless bandits, and we infight against one another, fearful of immigrants, foreign powers, differing ideologies, and general security.
politicians are merely puppets, scape goats, hitmen, and sin eaters for the wealthy and poor alike. hired to take the guilt, shame, glory, and responsibility of our wanted desires so that we do not have to. when it goes good or bad we claim proudly or sheepishly who we voted for, and blame each other for the outcomes, regardless of how good or bad they may actually be, instead of directly addressing the faceless manipulators who guided and uplifted every single head of state in the modern world, for their benefit.
that is the beauty of being an elite, all the riches and glory, and no repercussions. the social backlash is for the political lackies.
when any head of state speaks, pretend they are only speaking to the wealthy. because they are.
“its a big club, and you aint in it”
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This was a profound speech. There was a lot to it. Declaring the death of the liberal international order with less than shining obit being one example. That was a very powerful statement. More than that though, he has been gradually laying down pieces of a framework for working back towards a world order we might want to see. Can we do it without the US smashing it all up first? Very uncertain. Still, can’t fault Carney for taking the position he has. He’s supposed to be a leader, it’s a time when leadership is desperately needed, and he is stepping up as a leader.
“We knew RBIO was bullshit the whole time but we thought we could fake it til we make it” is pretty real and based.
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I know that many here and myself included, don’t appreciate his anti-worker example of the “Workers of the World Unite” being used as the lie of a corrupt regime…
However, this was a profound speech, and I would say one of Carney’s best since his election as Prime Minister. A great leader recognizes their own leadership and government’s faults to try and find the best way forward.
I took that as more of an anti-soviet dig instead of an anti-worker dig.
There’s no doubt that infected dictatorships co-opt valid communist, leftist, socialist and working-class rhetoric to serve their own selfish authoritarian agenda.
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If you’ve only read the headlines and not read the actual speech , you’re missing out on a lot of important details.
Edit: Updated link
The actual speech
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I took that as more of an anti-soviet dig instead of an anti-worker dig.
There’s no doubt that infected dictatorships co-opt valid communist, leftist, socialist and working-class rhetoric to serve their own selfish authoritarian agenda.
I think he ultimately brought it for the sake of example, one that his audience, the elite capitalist class could understand.
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The pity seat isn’t good enough for him, they’re going to run him in another seat.
I don’t know if that means he simply hates it there, or the party plans on dumping him and returning that seat to a party faithful.
It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that the conservatives in the Battle River-Crowfoot riding ripped PP a new one for taking the seat in the first place.
They toed the line … but only once.
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