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Apparently Canadians are notorius cheaters in the sport of Curling

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  • Value SubtractedV Value Subtracted

    …if said billiard ball weighed 40 lbs.

    A little finger poke ain’t gonna do shit.

    But, the rules are the rules.

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    bradleyuffner@lemmy.world
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    A little finger poke ain’t gonna do shit.

    And yet they risked getting caught breaking one of the major rules to do it. Why take that risk if doing it had no effect?

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    • H how_we_burned@lemmy.zip

      Now you’ve just pissed off the cheaters and the curlers

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      tangonov@lemmy.ca
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      They’ll have to hurry hard and get me

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      • K k0e3@lemmy.ca

        …but around my hood we don’t.

        Lol, this is so stupid. Why?

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        tomiant
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        #77

        Because we aren’t kids and don’t go to school since the 90’s.

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        • Z zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7671573

          Sweden knew Canada’s Marc Kennedy was a notorious cheater.

          So they set up a camera at the ‘hog line’ to record it.

          And caught him doing it at the Olympics.

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          canadianmade@lemmy.ca
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          • G gregorgizeh@lemmy.zip

            You realize we are not in your hood

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            tomiant
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            Hence the if. I am in my hood. Is this gonna take long for you to internalize, or? You do realize that outside the bubble you live in is a big world with all sorts of people in it, right, some of them not particularly nice. What I said was, you speak like that around the wrong people in the wrong neighborhood you’re gonna get your face stomped. Is that something you find hard to believe?

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            • B bradleyuffner@lemmy.world

              A little finger poke ain’t gonna do shit.

              And yet they risked getting caught breaking one of the major rules to do it. Why take that risk if doing it had no effect?

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              Value Subtracted
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              #80

              Check out the article I shared - many high-level curlers don’t consider it an infraction at all, let alone a major one. Even Oskar Eriksson, who made the original accusation, doesn’t seem to think it’s exclusive to Team Canada:

              For us, it’s been a problem the last couple of years, so we think it’s good that everyone can play with the same rules. Hopefully it’s just getting better from this.”

              It’s a dumb thing to do, though, and I’d be happy if people cleaned up their acts across the board.

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              • skulblakaS skulblaka

                and how that’d go down lol.

                What, getting your ass beat half to death by Olympian athletes?

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                tomiant
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                #81

                Hahaha yeah I’m sure those curlers would be a rough fight! Try to understand that not everyone is an overweight neckbeard living in some WASP community like you do, buddy. Turn on the news sometimes.

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                • G glide@lemmy.ca

                  Insinuating that everyone always performs perfectly at the Olympics? I just watched a woman cry because she only landed a double-spin instead of a triple during the figure skating competiton. I supposed she didn’t land her jump on purpose too?

                  Don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe he accidentally touched the rock, but I am shocked you find it so unbelievable that someone could be so focused on where their rock is going that they didn’t pay enough attention to how their hand was positioned after they let go of the rock. High pressure situations create surprising mistakes.

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                  Value Subtracted
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #82

                  Having been the one to originally use the word “accident,” I should probably amend that to “habitual.” A bad habit that people generally don’t call, that the Swedish team doesn’t appreciate (and is technically correct about).

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                  • T toiletobserver

                    That does seem like solid proof

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                    mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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                    #83

                    disagree. it isn’t conclusive. it shows that his finger was very close to touching for a few frames. that’s it. “very close” is not over the line. his finger is just enough on the back side that it’s inconclusive.

                    it’s a bit of a weird motion, sure, but watch a bunch of throws from various people and you’ll see some similar stuff.

                    that said, adjust your delivery so you’re not in this position in the first place. and settle down, even if there’s an ongoing issue you’re annoyed about.

                    I do find it funny that this is such a big deal but you can see people all over the place in this tournament dragging their finger(s) down the back of the handle at release, seemingly over the stone as well (yes I recognize that is a different motion that poking forward after being behind it)

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                    • S skozzii@lemmy.ca

                      And then there is this angle that shows he holds his finger beside the rock after release.

                      The “gotcha” photo has his finger buried internally in the rock, seeing this other angle shows his finger beside the rock, but from a different angle would appear to be touching it.

                      Not as clear cut as they want you to believe.

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                      mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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                      #84

                      where’d this image come from? this is exactly what I’ve been looking for, a shot from the appropriate angle

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                      • R ryper@lemmy.ca

                        The pictures are from different throws. Here the person is wearing long sleeves, and the person in the “gotcha” picture is wearing short sleeves.

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                        mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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                        #85

                        as much as people disliked what they said, they’re right - the point still stands.

                        THIS is the angle needed on the disputed throw, because his finger is behind the stone from camera’s POV. what’s happening in this throw could very well be exactly the case in the other

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                        • S shawn1122@sh.itjust.works

                          Getting caught with “you can fuck off” on a hit mic doesn’t help either. Last thing anyone wants is for Canada to gain a reputation of cheating, especially after the drone scandal with the Canadian womens soccer team at the Paris Olympics in '24.

                          Ahead of the tournament, on 22 July, New Zealand players noticed a drone flying over their training session and reported this to local police.[2] Drone operating laws in France ban drones from being flown above people and ban recordings made by drones to be shared without the subjects’ consent. French police were already wary of drones in terms of security around the 2024 Summer Olympics.[1][3] Saint-Étienne police followed the drone and found and detained its operator, a member of the staff of the Canadian team. The New Zealand Olympic Committee (NZOC) then reported the incident to the International Olympic Committee (IOC) integrity unit, before making a public announcement the next day together with New Zealand Football, expressing their disappointment towards the Canadian team. The Canadian Olympic Committee (COC) then apologized to the NZOC and said they would review next steps with Canada Soccer and all the relevant governing bodies.[2][4]

                          The drone operator, analyst Joseph Lombardi, admitted after his arrest that he had also filmed another New Zealand training session on 19 July,[5] a fact later made public by the COC.[1][3] Though Lombardi immediately said that the spying was “a personal initiative”, the police found a text message exchange on his phone with assistant coach Jasmine Mander that indicated Mander knew of the spying.[6]

                          If you’re resorting to espionage please just accept that you suck and don’t do things that drag your nations reputation in the process.

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                          Phoenixz
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                          Anyone involved in this should be fired and not allowed anywhere near amateur or professional sports teams.

                          Flying drones to record trainings during the Olympics isn’t “a little bit cheating”, that shit should be smashed to hell

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                          • wraithgear@lemmy.worldW wraithgear@lemmy.world

                            ok, but we are talking about a sport that is using brooms to micro melt the ice, and on a molecular level changing how the rotation changes the direction of this rock… someone touching the rock seems much more impactful

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                            blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca
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                            It really isn’t. Those rocks are heavy, a light touch like what’s seen in the video would have very little impact.

                            Changing the friction of the ice on the other hand has significantly more impact because of how heavy the rock is.

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                            • Z zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7671573

                              Sweden knew Canada’s Marc Kennedy was a notorious cheater.

                              So they set up a camera at the ‘hog line’ to record it.

                              And caught him doing it at the Olympics.

                              tweto

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                              redacted@lemmy.zip
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                              They should be forced to give back the medal

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                              • G glide@lemmy.ca

                                Insinuating that everyone always performs perfectly at the Olympics? I just watched a woman cry because she only landed a double-spin instead of a triple during the figure skating competiton. I supposed she didn’t land her jump on purpose too?

                                Don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe he accidentally touched the rock, but I am shocked you find it so unbelievable that someone could be so focused on where their rock is going that they didn’t pay enough attention to how their hand was positioned after they let go of the rock. High pressure situations create surprising mistakes.

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                                njm1314@lemmy.world
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                                Probably cuz he’s done more than once while he’s been at the olympics? Do you think that could be why I thought that?

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                                • tomiantT tomiant

                                  Hahaha yeah I’m sure those curlers would be a rough fight! Try to understand that not everyone is an overweight neckbeard living in some WASP community like you do, buddy. Turn on the news sometimes.

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                                  nosavingthrow@lemmy.world
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                                  You are certainly like most people: a coward.

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                                  • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                                    Well in the slowed video it totally looks intentional https://youtu.be/W1yh6GN5ysks

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                                    Logi
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                                    Yeah, that’s a definite little poke after releasing.

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                                    • H how_we_burned@lemmy.zip

                                      Now you’ve just pissed off the cheaters and the curlers

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                                      Logi
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                                      I’d joke about Venn diagrams but I’m afraid.

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                                      • tomiantT tomiant

                                        Hence the if. I am in my hood. Is this gonna take long for you to internalize, or? You do realize that outside the bubble you live in is a big world with all sorts of people in it, right, some of them not particularly nice. What I said was, you speak like that around the wrong people in the wrong neighborhood you’re gonna get your face stomped. Is that something you find hard to believe?

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                                        gregorgizeh@lemmy.zip
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                                        No my friend, the point is we are on the Internet and nobody gives two shits how rough your neighborhood is. What the fuck is the point of telling me i get assaulted by poorly adjusted individuals over words? I wont meet them, i dont live in a country where we have “hoods”.

                                        Sit down and stop acting like a badass in comment sections, nobody cares. The sheer fact that you are on this platform is evidence in itself that you are first and foremost a nerd, which is perfectly fine so why the posturing, lol.

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                                        • Value SubtractedV Value Subtracted

                                          this is a common strategy among cheaters in curling

                                          Very confidently stated, but I really don’t think it is.

                                          it is illegal to do for precisely that reason.

                                          It’s illegal because it’s way simpler to implement a “no touching” rule than to try to define game-changing and non game-changing touches in a way that would be enforceable.

                                          And again, I have absolutely no problem with the rule being enforced, even though I don’t think for a hot second that it impacted the game.

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                                          wax@feddit.nu
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                                          If it doesn’t help. Why risk doing it if it’s against the rules?

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