hmm why is that?

maybe, but for tryhard games you’d make a tryhard character anyway

That’s the thing though

I have no idea how.

Since PF2 came out I got by just fine on making unique and fun but entirely unoptimised characters. So I never bothered learning what synergises with what to make a tryhard character.

oh well you’d just have to play a bunch of characters and see what is strongest

or watch videos about optimizing characters. there are a bunch of those (a couple of youtube channels i’d recommend for that are swingripper and mathfinder)

Laughs in GURPS

Oh man, I really tried it one time… But I couldn’t really wrap my head around it, nor get my players to learn it. Also I wanted some pre-made monsters to toss into an encounter… Couldn’t find anything like that. You have to make every monster from scratch? I might be remembering that wrong.

You can do that in Dungeon Fantasy, which is basically just GURPS with a bunch of pre-made classes and stuff. But the strength of regular GURPS is the ability to handle any idea you can throw at it. It really shines when making your genre-bent homebrew come to life. Once you get comfortable with how the system scales things, you can really just wing it with monsters on the fly.

Toxicology got some buffs in the remaster that let them morph poison damage to acid if its favorable, iirc

Lots of creature types are immune to poison, such as undead and automatons. And there’s a lot of undead in the Abomination Vaults campaign.

Plus, there’s a lot of poisons that are very underwhelming. Especially ones that have an onset period; those are essentially useless in combat

Haha we used to live for that shit in the days of 3e/3.5

EDIT: I see now you thought they meant Pathfinder 1e, which explains it. Since that’s basically the same as 3.5 but better lol.

There are a few places I’ve found with lots of prebuilt monsters for GURPS, though they aren’t really consolidated in one place. I usually look through one if the following if I want something prebuilt:

• the creatures of the night books (mostly solitary monsters you could design an adventure around, with suggestions for each one)
• the fantasy bestiary (lots of generic and mythological monsters from all over the world, with stats and descriptions for each one)
• dungeon fantasy monsters 1-3 (lots of monsters, kinda built with dungeon fantasy settings and power levels in mind)
• the gurps repository also has tons of free and generic statblocks