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  • CoelacanthC Coelacanth

    Hell of a lot of centralisation onto piefed.social happening it seems.

    Blaze (he/him) B This user is from outside of this forum
    Blaze (he/him) B This user is from outside of this forum
    Blaze (he/him)
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    It’s not that clear: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45977837?scrollToComments=true

    The vast majority of communities are still on LW anyway: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active

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    • Blaze (he/him) B Blaze (he/him)

      (jokes incoming about this community having to move for the nth time)

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      Otter
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      At some point we’re going to need a recap of how it all came together

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      • OtterO Otter

        At some point we’re going to need a recap of how it all came together

        Blaze (he/him) B This user is from outside of this forum
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        Blaze (he/him)
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        Old post for people interested: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/29606682

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        • Blaze (he/him) B Blaze (he/him)

          (jokes incoming about this community having to move for the nth time)

          Sunshine (she/her)S This user is from outside of this forum
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          Sunshine (she/her)
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          The nomad community.

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          • CoelacanthC Coelacanth

            Hell of a lot of centralisation onto piefed.social happening it seems.

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            hddsx@lemmy.ca
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            I noticed this too and I’m not familiar with it. I might have to advocate against piefed like I do against world because it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

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            • Blaze (he/him) B Blaze (he/him)

              It’s not that clear: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45977837?scrollToComments=true

              The vast majority of communities are still on LW anyway: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active

              CoelacanthC This user is from outside of this forum
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              Coelacanth
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              Most are still pending so we’ll see how it shakes out. From a cursory glance I’m counting 19 out of 51 currently decided migrations being to piefed.social right now. A little less than half, maybe that’s an acceptable amount of centralisation? I am not really engaged in these things it was just an observation.

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              • H hddsx@lemmy.ca

                I noticed this too and I’m not familiar with it. I might have to advocate against piefed like I do against world because it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

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                taco
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

                Piefed is a separate software, so more aligned with lemmy than a specific instance. Moot point right now, as there’s only a handful of instances.

                I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                As an aside, it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

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                • CoelacanthC Coelacanth

                  Hell of a lot of centralisation onto piefed.social happening it seems.

                  OpenStarsO This user is from outside of this forum
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                  OpenStars
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  PieFed is awesome and the community migration feature makes things easier. Though yeah, it might be preferable to have picked something other than the flagship instance that rolls out new features fastest, i.e. a more “stable” instance that is behind that roll-out a bit. Though PieFed is still so new that there aren’t that many to begin with. https://feddit.online/ is another strong option, but I don’t know if it’s based in Canada or the USA and anything in the latter might be unreliable in the future.

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                  • H hddsx@lemmy.ca

                    I noticed this too and I’m not familiar with it. I might have to advocate against piefed like I do against world because it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

                    OpenStarsO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    OpenStars
                    wrote on last edited by openstars@piefed.social
                    #14

                    Lol then allow me to put your mind at ease:

                    Lemmy.world (LW) is the #1 instance with >16k MAUs (monthly active users)

                    lemm.ee btw was the #2 instance with 5.3k MAUs, roughly a third the size of LW

                    lemmynsfw.com is #3 with 3.6k

                    sh.itjust.works is #4 with 2.8k, 5.7-fold smaller than LW

                    fwiw Lemmy.ca is #7 with 1.6k MAUs

                    PieFed.social has 684 users total, as in <0.7k MAU, 24-fold smaller than LW

                    All of this according to Fediverse Observer stats (not that easy to use especially for PieFed, which it doesn’t even have an icon for, and doesn’t allow sharing of URLs for the sorting and filtering options very unfortunately).

                    TLDR: nothing across the entire Fediverse comes anywhere close to Lemmy.world in terms of users.

                    PieFed is gaining ground because the features are just that good in comparison to Lemmy, and because the admins are not authoritarians. Indeed, do look into it, bc it’s well worth knowing about, and you may fall in love and switch yourself:-). I did.🥰❤️

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                    • CoelacanthC Coelacanth

                      Most are still pending so we’ll see how it shakes out. From a cursory glance I’m counting 19 out of 51 currently decided migrations being to piefed.social right now. A little less than half, maybe that’s an acceptable amount of centralisation? I am not really engaged in these things it was just an observation.

                      Blaze (he/him) B This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Blaze (he/him)
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      All of the communities could have gone to lemm.ee, most of the communities would still be centralized mostly on Lemmy.world.

                      You need to scroll three times to to see the first Lemm.ee community on https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active (!meta@lemm.ee)

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                      • T taco

                        it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

                        Piefed is a separate software, so more aligned with lemmy than a specific instance. Moot point right now, as there’s only a handful of instances.

                        I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                        As an aside, it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

                        Blaze (he/him) B This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Blaze (he/him)
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

                        People on the Thrediverse never seemed really interested in microblogging

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                        • Blaze (he/him) B Blaze (he/him)

                          it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

                          People on the Thrediverse never seemed really interested in microblogging

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                          taco
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          True, though I was on kbin initially and found the microblogging stuff easy enough to just ignore.

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                          • Blaze (he/him) B Blaze (he/him)

                            it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

                            People on the Thrediverse never seemed really interested in microblogging

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                            Skavau
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                            #18

                            Even though I initially started out on kbin when I attempted this on the fediverse (because of its rich feature depth), it was pretty overdesigned in my opinion.

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                            • T taco

                              it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

                              Piefed is a separate software, so more aligned with lemmy than a specific instance. Moot point right now, as there’s only a handful of instances.

                              I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                              As an aside, it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

                              S This user is from outside of this forum
                              S This user is from outside of this forum
                              Skavau
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                              This is happening by the way. Many lemmy communities are making their own instances based on Piefed. And the good news about Piefed is that community transferring is built in, so once larger more supported instances move over, it will be viable for any .social community to transfer over.

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                              • S Skavau

                                I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

                                This is happening by the way. Many lemmy communities are making their own instances based on Piefed. And the good news about Piefed is that community transferring is built in, so once larger more supported instances move over, it will be viable for any .social community to transfer over.

                                JeenaJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Jeena
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

                                But running my own PieFed instance I can say it’s much much easier to run and especially update than Lemmy.

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                                • JeenaJ Jeena

                                  To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

                                  But running my own PieFed instance I can say it’s much much easier to run and especially update than Lemmy.

                                  Blaze (he/him) B This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Blaze (he/him)
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

                                  It does, I got 100 subscribers instantly on the communities I moved to Piefed

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                                  • Blaze (he/him) B Blaze (he/him)

                                    To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

                                    It does, I got 100 subscribers instantly on the communities I moved to Piefed

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                                    Jeena
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    Only internal instance subscribers I assume, nobody from Lemmy or other PieFed instances. As far as I know ActivityPub doesn’t define how to move something like a community to a different instance.

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                                    • JeenaJ Jeena

                                      Only internal instance subscribers I assume, nobody from Lemmy or other PieFed instances. As far as I know ActivityPub doesn’t define how to move something like a community to a different instance.

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                                      Blaze (he/him)
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #23

                                      Rimu told me it would work between Piefed instances

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                                      • Blaze (he/him) B Blaze (he/him)

                                        Rimu told me it would work between Piefed instances

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                                        Jeena
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        I’m afraid it only works for that one instance:

                                        I am subscribed to:

                                        but not to:

                                        So I have to chase the ones and resubscribe manually.

                                        That’s ok if I know about it, I can just search for all lemm.ee ones I’m subscribed to, go there and find the post which tells me where the community is moving. But sometimes it takes time for the community to decide and I probably will miss it like https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35941084

                                        Anyway, just so that everybody is aware of that fact and doesn’t miss resubscribing to the new ones.

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                                        • JeenaJ Jeena

                                          I’m afraid it only works for that one instance:

                                          I am subscribed to:

                                          but not to:

                                          So I have to chase the ones and resubscribe manually.

                                          That’s ok if I know about it, I can just search for all lemm.ee ones I’m subscribed to, go there and find the post which tells me where the community is moving. But sometimes it takes time for the community to decide and I probably will miss it like https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35941084

                                          Anyway, just so that everybody is aware of that fact and doesn’t miss resubscribing to the new ones.

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                                          Jeena
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #25

                                          Ah or perhaps you meant if we move from one piefed instance to another piefed instance that the 3rd instances would be aware of it?

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