Old post for people interested: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/29606682

The nomad community.

I noticed this too and I’m not familiar with it. I might have to advocate against piefed like I do against world because it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

Most are still pending so we’ll see how it shakes out. From a cursory glance I’m counting 19 out of 51 currently decided migrations being to piefed.social right now. A little less than half, maybe that’s an acceptable amount of centralisation? I am not really engaged in these things it was just an observation.

it defeats the entire purpose of Lemmy

Piefed is a separate software, so more aligned with lemmy than a specific instance. Moot point right now, as there’s only a handful of instances.

I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

As an aside, it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

PieFed is awesome and the community migration feature makes things easier. Though yeah, it might be preferable to have picked something other than the flagship instance that rolls out new features fastest, i.e. a more “stable” instance that is behind that roll-out a bit. Though PieFed is still so new that there aren’t that many to begin with. https://feddit.online/ is another strong option, but I don’t know if it’s based in Canada or the USA and anything in the latter might be unreliable in the future.

Lol then allow me to put your mind at ease:

Lemmy.world (LW) is the #1 instance with >16k MAUs (monthly active users)

lemm.ee btw was the #2 instance with 5.3k MAUs, roughly a third the size of LW

lemmynsfw.com is #3 with 3.6k

sh.itjust.works is #4 with 2.8k, 5.7-fold smaller than LW

fwiw Lemmy.ca is #7 with 1.6k MAUs

PieFed.social has 684 users total, as in <0.7k MAU, 24-fold smaller than LW

All of this according to Fediverse Observer stats (not that easy to use especially for PieFed, which it doesn’t even have an icon for, and doesn’t allow sharing of URLs for the sorting and filtering options very unfortunately).

TLDR: nothing across the entire Fediverse comes anywhere close to Lemmy.world in terms of users.

PieFed is gaining ground because the features are just that good in comparison to Lemmy, and because the admins are not authoritarians. Indeed, do look into it, bc it’s well worth knowing about, and you may fall in love and switch yourself:-). I did.🥰️

All of the communities could have gone to lemm.ee, most of the communities would still be centralized mostly on Lemmy.world.

You need to scroll three times to to see the first Lemm.ee community on https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active (!meta@lemm.ee)

it seems like mbin isn’t getting any love throughout this process.

People on the Thrediverse never seemed really interested in microblogging

True, though I was on kbin initially and found the microblogging stuff easy enough to just ignore.

Even though I initially started out on kbin when I attempted this on the fediverse (because of its rich feature depth), it was pretty overdesigned in my opinion.

I think the real answer is less advocating against Piefed (which is getting some preference thanks to QoL additions for community management, I think), but rather advocate for some of the larger communities moving to Piefed to spin up a whole new instance.

This is happening by the way. Many lemmy communities are making their own instances based on Piefed. And the good news about Piefed is that community transferring is built in, so once larger more supported instances move over, it will be viable for any .social community to transfer over.

To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

But running my own PieFed instance I can say it’s much much easier to run and especially update than Lemmy.

To some degree, I hope PieFed can at least build in a more automatic way of moving not only the content but also the subscribers like Mastodon does.

It does, I got 100 subscribers instantly on the communities I moved to Piefed

Only internal instance subscribers I assume, nobody from Lemmy or other PieFed instances. As far as I know ActivityPub doesn’t define how to move something like a community to a different instance.

Rimu told me it would work between Piefed instances

I’m afraid it only works for that one instance:

I am subscribed to:

but not to:

So I have to chase the ones and resubscribe manually.

That’s ok if I know about it, I can just search for all lemm.ee ones I’m subscribed to, go there and find the post which tells me where the community is moving. But sometimes it takes time for the community to decide and I probably will miss it like https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/35941084

Anyway, just so that everybody is aware of that fact and doesn’t miss resubscribing to the new ones.

Ah or perhaps you meant if we move from one piefed instance to another piefed instance that the 3rd instances would be aware of it?

Yes, that was more the idea