hes obviously the best option we can realistically hope for in our current social/political structure. HOWEVER. hes a politician, and a very wealthy banker. so dont miss the mountain for the trees here.

quietly pushing digital ID, AI, increased surveillance, decreased personal privacy, subverting charter rights and constitutional rights, giving our information without warrant to the police, our government, and the united states government and corporations, using tax payer funding to pay for private interest projects that directly undermine green energy and expand american, and other foreign financial interest in our countries resources. removing canadians ability to defend themselves against an apparantly imminent foreign invasion by reducing firearm availability and punishing legal gun owners as a result of an issue directly correlated to illegal firearms imported from the united states. all the while increasing police funding and military funding which also directly puts tax payer money into the pockets of military contractors, foreign and domestic. limiting the ability to defend our sovereignity to government employees rather than average citizens.

he gives a great speech, he is much better than pierre poilievre, however, he does not represent 99% of canadians, he represents the rich, industry, and established/emerging monopolies above all else. the new world order he speaks of is one where we will continue to struggle financially as workers so that corporations and the elite can maintain stable control over a productive yet exhausted population. snowballing the concentration of wealth and power to the elite, and new emerging elite class. while reducing ownership for consumers in virtually every single sector you can imagine. fuelling our economy with an indebted population.

the new boot on our heads is just a bit more polished and expensive, but it is still a boot on our heads. and its going to be a bit heavier than it was before. but with the right marketing, we will always beg for more, thinking its for our own good.

so unless you are already quite well off, dont expect a grand shift in your fortunes and affordability. not just because of him, or trump, or a new economic model, but the class that they both represent. the elites are shifting the board, and the people, as always, will bear the brunt of it all. while they make off like faceless bandits, and we infight against one another, fearful of immigrants, foreign powers, differing ideologies, and general security.

politicians are merely puppets, scape goats, hitmen, and sin eaters for the wealthy and poor alike. hired to take the guilt, shame, glory, and responsibility of our wanted desires so that we do not have to. when it goes good or bad we claim proudly or sheepishly who we voted for, and blame each other for the outcomes, regardless of how good or bad they may actually be, instead of directly addressing the faceless manipulators who guided and uplifted every single head of state in the modern world, for their benefit.

that is the beauty of being an elite, all the riches and glory, and no repercussions. the social backlash is for the political lackies.

when any head of state speaks, pretend they are only speaking to the wealthy. because they are.

“its a big club, and you aint in it”

This was a historic speech and I sincerely hope the European leaders get the message. It was also very surprising to hear him lay bare the problem with the old world order and talking about a new one that would live up to its ideals. There is more to Carney than I thought.

I still oppose many of his domestic policies that I consider too right wing. But that’s what a democracy is about.

Not so idealistic once the war machine turns its eyes upon you, right? But it was fine when only poor countries were on the list. Institutionalized hypocrisy.

There is more to Carney than I thought.

Having read his book before the election, this is exactly who I expected when I voted.

Carney, and the Liberals and centrists in general, constantly resist real change. He acts more like a conservative than anything, and even very recently tried to screw over the Air Canada attendants when they tried to fight for fair pay. He’s selling off our resources to private companies and laying off government workers during a time where those people will seriously struggle to find new work.

The speech was decent, I guess, but coming from Carney it’s just a bad joke. Like Trudeau kneeling with the BLM protesters, he’s demanding better behaviour from world leaders while being a world leader who can’t behave himself. Pretty, empty words from a weak man.

We should listen and form a new world order, and we should make sure that he doesn’t get to pretend like he was on the right side of history.

Listening to him again reminded me of '08 when he helped lead us out of the Wall St shit storm. It’s the main reason I voted for him too. He tells the truth - no sugar coating, no dumb cliches, no lies to make you feel better.

I’m not happy with everything he’s done (see Bill C-2) but when things get rough he lays the cards on the table and says it like it is.

Don’t worry. Trump is speaking in Davos tomorrow.

Oh happy days.

Carney is very conservative. He was well liked by Harper and is to the right of Trudeau. We really need actual leftists and not bankers leading the way and I regret voting for him and not voting NDP or to a communist party (even if they had no chance of winning).

A liar? A guy who busts union strikes who rides in on his high horse to tell everyone else they need to create a new world order? The guy who sells our natural resources to private companies for a quick buck and lays off thousands of government jobs in a time where those people will have an immensely difficuly time getting jobs? The guy who handles finances like a conservative?

You hoped for someone to create a progressive new future and you voted for Carney? And you’re just admitting that openly? That’s wild, dude.

Well, he called Greenland “Iceland” 4 times in a meandering, somewhat incoherent ramble of a speech.

Can you imagine pp in this moment, jfc

Carney is very conservative. He was well liked by Harper and is to the right of Trudeau. We really need actual leftists and not bankers leading the way and I regret voting for him and not voting NDP or to a communist party (even if they had no chance of winning).

If everyone who voted for the party that aligned with their views I think they’d be pretty surprised at who really had “no chance of winning”. The Liberals didn’t throw voting reform in the garbage for nothing.

I voted for Carney because I dreaded PP. I didn’t realize the extent of how much he would be talking out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand acting like it is all over, but on the other hand doing everything he can to appease the US and passing online and ‘strong borders’ act that effectively destroy privacy online for Canadians AND share or straight up hand that information over to the US authorities just like that.

I voted for Carney because I dreaded PP. I didn’t realize the extent of how much he would be talking out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand acting like it is all over, but on the other hand doing everything he can to appease the US and passing online and ‘strong borders’ act that effectively destroy privacy online for Canadians AND share or straight up hand that information over to the US authorities just like that.

Can you imagine pp in this moment, jfc

Horrible, obviously. But why do we constantly force ourselves into steadily worse situations with the center-right to the point where we even have to consider that at all? And besides, that’s always the same lame excuse. It’s going to come up eventually and we may as well be equipped to fight back, unlike right now were we just have Harper style Conservatives instead of PP style ones. Congrats, we’re fucking stupid.

The guy you responded to is on the far left economically. Think the polar opposite of libertarian, who thinks there are no redeeming qualities of our current economic systems, and rather than fixing things incrementally, if we instead massively overhaul the system, we will surely have a much better economic picture.

Not sure what he believes about democracy, but I’m guessing he also objects to that as well. In other words, hardly with the time of day.

Can’t argue with that, just seems that carney was the best equipped out of the choices we had to meet this moment, even if he’s not perfect. I do hope for an ndp future, but here we are…