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Bill C-5 just became law with ZERO new changes. Here's what that means (it's not good)

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  • T teppa

    Wow, theyre prioritizing the well being of the country over the environment and indigenous people?

    Its like they’re finally trying to keep us in a first world standard of living; because they were about to be destroyed as a party entirely if they did not.

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    recursive_recursion they/them
    wrote on last edited by recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca
    #5

    Promised actions of good should never come at the expense of any singular group, minority, people.

    In addition destroying our land to fuel the economic engine will only benefit capitalist systems and corporations.

    I’ve yet to see how this would sustainably benefit foreign people in their own country so to import this into Canada seems ridiculous.

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    • recursive_recursion they/themR recursive_recursion they/them

      Promised actions of good should never come at the expense of any singular group, minority, people.

      In addition destroying our land to fuel the economic engine will only benefit capitalist systems and corporations.

      I’ve yet to see how this would sustainably benefit foreign people in their own country so to import this into Canada seems ridiculous.

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      teppa
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      #6

      It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

      Its an export of a product, which derives tax revenue, which derives income taxes, which results in government programs to help the poor. Pretending like its not vital in our ecosystem is silly, its our food source, it provides us building materials, corporate exports give your dollar value and are the red blood cells of society.

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      • T teppa

        It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

        Its an export of a product, which derives tax revenue, which derives income taxes, which results in government programs to help the poor. Pretending like its not vital in our ecosystem is silly, its our food source, it provides us building materials, corporate exports give your dollar value and are the red blood cells of society.

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        recursive_recursion they/them
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        #7

        It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

        Fedecan is a nonprofit

        I’m not paid to do anything

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          Kobek
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          #8

          Everyone hates Trump so much but have learned nothing. Don’t you get it? Parties are just a tool for populists, and that is exactly what Carney is.

          I am definitely not a communist but didn’t Marx say something about false consciousness? Keep worshiping the rich because they are on your “team” and you’ll pay for it. Yeah elect a billionaire to fight another billionaire and the people are somehow going to benefit? It’s ridiculous.

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            Nomecks
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            Seems like a no lose scenario for the Liberals: Courts will strike this down and the Liberals take another talking point away from the Conservatives.

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            • T teppa

              It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

              Its an export of a product, which derives tax revenue, which derives income taxes, which results in government programs to help the poor. Pretending like its not vital in our ecosystem is silly, its our food source, it provides us building materials, corporate exports give your dollar value and are the red blood cells of society.

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              ComradeSharkfucker
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              It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

              Lmao, the workers do not share in the profits of corporations. As if 😭

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              • T teppa

                Wow, theyre prioritizing the well being of the country over the environment and indigenous people?

                Its like they’re finally trying to keep us in a first world standard of living; because they were about to be destroyed as a party entirely if they did not.

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                ComradeSharkfucker
                wrote on last edited by sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml
                #11

                Your well being depends on the environment and any improvement to your well being should not come at a detriment to the people your country colonized and genocided.

                Environmental protection acts do not exist to protect the environment. They exist to protect you from what business owners will do to your environment in the name of profit seeking.

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                • ComradeSharkfuckerS ComradeSharkfucker

                  It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

                  Lmao, the workers do not share in the profits of corporations. As if 😭

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                  teppa
                  wrote on last edited by teppa@piefed.ca
                  #12

                  Theyre literally paid out of the profits. You’re spouting nonsense.

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                  • T teppa

                    It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

                    Its an export of a product, which derives tax revenue, which derives income taxes, which results in government programs to help the poor. Pretending like its not vital in our ecosystem is silly, its our food source, it provides us building materials, corporate exports give your dollar value and are the red blood cells of society.

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                    howrar@lemmy.ca
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                    #13

                    Take from one group of poor people to benefit another group of poor people? That doesn’t sound like a good thing to me.

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                    • T teppa

                      Theyre literally paid out of the profits. You’re spouting nonsense.

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                      ComradeSharkfucker
                      wrote on last edited by sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml
                      #14

                      You receive a miniscule percentage of the value you create for your employer. The employer needs profits to increase constantly in order to provide value to the shareholders. When the total value of the company increases you at best receive the same cut of the value your produce. Usually though, your percentage cut decreases relative to total value so that the employer can extract greater value as demanded by shareholders. You aren’t paid out of the profits, they take a cut of the value you produce by virtue of owning the company. This is why wages do not increase proportionally to productivity. I am not spouting nonsense, you just aren’t equipped to understand what I am saying.

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                      • T teppa

                        Theyre literally paid out of the profits. You’re spouting nonsense.

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                        Nik282000
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                        Found the manager. Businesses pay employees as little as is legally possible in many cases while raking in huge profits.

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                          cyborganism
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                          I think had we had a minority Conservative gouvernent with a strong NDP opposition, we would be in a much better situation.

                          I hate the conservatives but fuck the liberals for being dishonest hypocritical pieces of shit.

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                          • B bdot@lemmy.world

                            any time a government is trying to fast track a bill, every resident should be paying special attention; no matter their party of choice.

                            pretty crazy that this came from the Liberals

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                            NoneOfUrBusiness
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                            pretty crazy that this came from the Liberals

                            Not really. Setting aside the obvious “liberalism is the precursor to fascism,” this is simply modern day colonialism, and when have liberals ever opposed colonialism?

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                              grte@lemmy.ca
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                              The country got hoodwinked. So distracted by Poilievre that they snuck another Harper creature in to lead the Liberals.

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                              • T teppa

                                Theyre literally paid out of the profits. You’re spouting nonsense.

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                                acargitz
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                                Revenue and profits are not the same thing. If you’re going to abrasively assert stuff, at least don’t be wrong.

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                                  Rentlar
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                                  I’m upset that more deference to House MPs’ summer vacation was given in the Senate than the potential impact to our rights.

                                  I’m still cautiously optimistic about Bill C-5 (though Bill C-2 needs to either be scrapped or massively reworked IMO), since there could be bills to amend the laws again, or matters of discretion that come out of this summer’s consultation.

                                  The power is in the government now in law, but the civil and legal pushback will come depending on how forceful the government attempts to use this newly gained power.

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                                  • N NoneOfUrBusiness

                                    pretty crazy that this came from the Liberals

                                    Not really. Setting aside the obvious “liberalism is the precursor to fascism,” this is simply modern day colonialism, and when have liberals ever opposed colonialism?

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                                    bdot@lemmy.world
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                                    good grief. you either have a DEEP misunderstanding of the words “liberalism” and “fascism” or you’re a troll.

                                    or perhaps a descendant of Mussolini?

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                                    • G grte@lemmy.ca

                                      The country got hoodwinked. So distracted by Poilievre that they snuck another Harper creature in to lead the Liberals.

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                                      brax@sh.itjust.works
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                                      I don’t think there was any distraction. We had two shit choices and NDP. And since this country fails to elect NDP time after time, it was a given that we were pretty fucked. The main difference during this election between the parties that I saw were:

                                      1. The Liberal platform didn’t contradict itself every point or two

                                      2. The Liberal platform focused a lot more on domestic tourism, accessibility, and making it easier to transport our own goods across provincial borders.

                                      I don’t see how bill C-5 fits into any of the platform they put forward.

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                                        WTF is happening in the world.

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                                        masterofn001
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                                        It is the beginning of the end.

                                        Something something reset.

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                                        • B bdot@lemmy.world

                                          good grief. you either have a DEEP misunderstanding of the words “liberalism” and “fascism” or you’re a troll.

                                          or perhaps a descendant of Mussolini?

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                                          NoneOfUrBusiness
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                                          Uh… We are literally in a thread about that in action. The next time conservatives are in power they’ll be very thankful the liberals passed this.

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