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"Triple-A is in crisis" and games "don't have staying power because they're bad," says ex Gears of War director and Painkiller creator

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  • R ryathal@sh.itjust.works

    Early access is more about getting revenue during development and some limited QA potential. There shouldn’t be any surprises in the feedback, that would be a sign of major problems. EA also generally comes with a discount for the player which is anathema to the AAA crowd.

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    harvey656@lemmy.world
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    That’s not all ea has to be, it can be more than that, all we have to do is make it look like more money can be made that way for AAA and we can have our cake and eat it too.

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    • T typhoon@lemmy.ca

      This is the problem with capitalism now. No one is happy making a good profit. They have to extract maximum profit by cutting everything else.

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      lfrith@lemmy.ca
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      #34

      Capitalism has always been that way. Might be more accurate to say it gets worse when hobby becomes mainstream enough for more money to start flowing into it. Best balance seems to be when something is profitable but niche so corporations consider it not big enough for them to go all in on with their wealth.

      Gaming was better when it was some loser hobby in the eyes of society than accepted like it is now causing it to grow to bring in more revenue than movies and music combined. That drew the attention of the vultures.

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      • H harvey656@lemmy.world

        That’s not all ea has to be, it can be more than that, all we have to do is make it look like more money can be made that way for AAA and we can have our cake and eat it too.

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        ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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        EA is great for small and medium sized studios to get games out that might be a bit more ambitious than they could manage with traditional models. The point of AAA is that they have the money to do big impressive things. They can already do focus groups and closed betas to get community feedback. The thing that might attract AAA attention is you could make a good amount without actually releasing anything.

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        • R ryathal@sh.itjust.works

          EA is great for small and medium sized studios to get games out that might be a bit more ambitious than they could manage with traditional models. The point of AAA is that they have the money to do big impressive things. They can already do focus groups and closed betas to get community feedback. The thing that might attract AAA attention is you could make a good amount without actually releasing anything.

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          harvey656@lemmy.world
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          Idk, id love to see it properly done from AAA. That would be a great way to prove you right or wrong.

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          • R ramble81@lemmy.zip

            And then you have Clair Obscur schooling studios on how it should be done.

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            washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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            I just started playing this game. I cried at the end of the fucking prologue. What amazing writing and voice acting.

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              xep@discuss.online
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              #38

              It’s okay, we can just not play AAA games.

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              • W washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                I just started playing this game. I cried at the end of the fucking prologue. What amazing writing and voice acting.

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                apeman42@lemmy.world
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                #39

                Buckle up, mate.

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                • apeman42@lemmy.worldA apeman42@lemmy.world

                  Buckle up, mate.

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                  soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  #40

                  Uh oh. I’m starting it tonight.

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                  • brobot9000@lemmy.worldB brobot9000@lemmy.world

                    How about you stop releasing unfinished live service shit and put out something that is genuinely fun to play and not just another money trap for unsupervised children.

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                    nfreak@lemmy.ml
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                    #41

                    The amount of genuinely good and successful live service games is so minimal that it’s actual insanity seeing AAA execs trying to reinvent the wheel and failing every time.

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                    • ronnyzittledong@lemmy.worldR ronnyzittledong@lemmy.world

                      Almost all AAA games are online live service games. I have absolutely no interest in those games. I have been surviving off of indy or lower budget games pretty well while the big guys are off trying to make all the money doing boring shit.

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                      nfreak@lemmy.ml
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                      #42

                      The only ones I play these days are Warframe and occasionally PoE2, both relatively smaller dev teams with large publisher backing but mostly left to their own devices to do whatever the fuck they want. Coming from the predatory FOMO hell that was Destiny 2, getting into similar games but ones that actually respect the players is refreshing.

                      I have zero interest in throwaway AAA slop in general, let alone with all the usual live service shit tacked on.

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                      • apeman42@lemmy.worldA apeman42@lemmy.world

                        Buckle up, mate.

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                        soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                        #43

                        Uh oh. I’m starting it tonight.

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                        • W washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                          I just started playing this game. I cried at the end of the fucking prologue. What amazing writing and voice acting.

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                          mysticpickle@lemmy.ca
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                          Some dude pushed himself to finish it all in a weekend because he had a busy week ahead and was in shambles. Man was not made to handle that much feels in such a short period 🥲

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                          • W washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                            I just started playing this game. I cried at the end of the fucking prologue. What amazing writing and voice acting.

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                            kynn@jlai.lu
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                            This is… but the prologue. Steel yourself. You’ll need it.

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                            • G grindinggears@lemmy.ca

                              Wholeheartedly agree. Games these past few years have been big letdowns for the most part. There’s been a couple exceptions, but for the most part it’s been disappointing.

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                              mysticpickle@lemmy.ca
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                              #46

                              The gaming scene outside of AAA studios has been about as vibrant as it’s ever been.

                              Most of the nominees for GOTY have been AA studios at best and this was a stellar year imo with titles like Silksong, Hades 2, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Clair Obscur, Blue Prince, Dispatch, and The Alters to name a few!

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                              • M mysticpickle@lemmy.ca

                                The gaming scene outside of AAA studios has been about as vibrant as it’s ever been.

                                Most of the nominees for GOTY have been AA studios at best and this was a stellar year imo with titles like Silksong, Hades 2, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Clair Obscur, Blue Prince, Dispatch, and The Alters to name a few!

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                                fauxliving@lemmy.world
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                                And all of those games (other than Dispatch and Thealters, which I haven’t played yet) are absolute bangers with hundreds of hours of content for the price of 1/7th a stick of RAM.

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                                • K kynn@jlai.lu

                                  This is… but the prologue. Steel yourself. You’ll need it.

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                                  fauxliving@lemmy.world
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                                  #48

                                  ::: spoiler spoiler <e: apparently spoilers don’t work for some users> :::

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                                    monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                                    Right? After AC3 i stopped caring.

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                                      phegan@lemmy.world
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                                      I firmly believe we are entering the dark ages of AAA games, with the cost to make and GenAI they are going to be shit.

                                      Support indie devs.

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                                      • teftT teft

                                        Why do they need to get filthy rich? Why not settle for rich and having a good game?

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                                        alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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                                        Because filthy rich is more attractive for capital.

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                                          thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works
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                                          We are at a point now that games from the PS3/X360 era still look and play well, so newer titles need to contribute something new in order to make an impact.

                                          If a AAA-studio releases a 7/10 title in 2026, it’s not just competing with the 8s, 9s, and 10s also releasing the same year - but also every single such title from the past 20 years!

                                          This will also only continue to get worse in coming years as the backlog of exceptional titles will continue to build.

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