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Itch.io are seeking out new payment processors who are more comfortable with adult material

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  • H ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝

    A lot of European countries have direct bank transactions streamlined, you scan a QR code and fraud is owned by the bank.

    It’s ecen more secure than cards, since you can’t get double charged by the vendor.

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    azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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    What Americans tend to refer to as β€œfraud protection” is charge back policies, where the payment processor acts as Content Police and revert transactions if they hear the vendor was unfair to their customer (and they usually are on the side of the customer).

    My EU bank won’t do that even on my credit card, because it’s insane that one would expect a financial institution to be judge, jury, and executioner in the case of a disagreement over legal services rendered.

    Americans have to own up to the uncomfortable fact that dependence on these policies is what keeps the big credit cars companies in power, on top of severely driving up consumer prices (unfairly weighted towards the rich of course who get cashbacks thanks to the obscene money Visa makes on their enormous transaction fees) and being incredibly unfair to small vendors who don’t have the means to meaningfully dispute fraudulent chargebacks.

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    • D dagnet@lemmy.world

      My country has our own government operated, fast, simple and cheap payment method so now visa and mastercard are making the US government pressure us to destroy it

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      ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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      Which country?

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      • T taldan@lemmy.world

        We really need a push based payment system. It’s absurd someone can take money from you simply by knowing your credit card or bank numbers

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        skyestarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Wait, where in the world does that happen?

        …don’t tell me that in the US if someone has your banking details they can do literally anything they want, and just empty your account

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        • S skyestarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone

          Wait, where in the world does that happen?

          …don’t tell me that in the US if someone has your banking details they can do literally anything they want, and just empty your account

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          khornechips@sh.itjust.works
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          They absolutely can, yes.

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          • S skyestarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            Wait, where in the world does that happen?

            …don’t tell me that in the US if someone has your banking details they can do literally anything they want, and just empty your account

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            Sepa Direct Debits work in basically every SWIFT-connected country too, so that’s most of the world.

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            • A azertyfun@sh.itjust.works

              What Americans tend to refer to as β€œfraud protection” is charge back policies, where the payment processor acts as Content Police and revert transactions if they hear the vendor was unfair to their customer (and they usually are on the side of the customer).

              My EU bank won’t do that even on my credit card, because it’s insane that one would expect a financial institution to be judge, jury, and executioner in the case of a disagreement over legal services rendered.

              Americans have to own up to the uncomfortable fact that dependence on these policies is what keeps the big credit cars companies in power, on top of severely driving up consumer prices (unfairly weighted towards the rich of course who get cashbacks thanks to the obscene money Visa makes on their enormous transaction fees) and being incredibly unfair to small vendors who don’t have the means to meaningfully dispute fraudulent chargebacks.

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              Banks can and absolutely do honor chargeback requests, though the terminology is usually different, even in the EU. But these are usually always honored (eg SDD Reversal or MOIs).

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                Banks can and absolutely do honor chargeback requests, though the terminology is usually different, even in the EU. But these are usually always honored (eg SDD Reversal or MOIs).

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                azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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                β€œRegular” SDDs can only be done within 5 business days apparently. Not that I would know, my bank certainly doesn’t offer a magic money back button to their private customers, and as I remember it my contract only allows transaction reversal in case of identity fraud, basically.

                As far as I can tell, SDDs are a B2B-oriented tool that can only be initiated in particular circumstances such as a merchant being unable to fulfill an order altogether – i.e. when the legal case for a breach of contract is so unambiguous that it isn’t worth either party’s time to go to court. That’s very different from the American thinking of β€œmy hotel room wasn’t as clean as I like it so I’m going to do a chargeback because that’s my Visa-given right”.

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                  Jakob Fel
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                  … Exactly why I can’t stand that platform. Instead of just leaving that trash off the platform, they’re fighting for it.

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                  • S skyestarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                    Wait, where in the world does that happen?

                    …don’t tell me that in the US if someone has your banking details they can do literally anything they want, and just empty your account

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                    motoash@lemmy.world
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                    So what do you do to set up automatic payments or buy something online where chips cannot be read? Do you get a notification to approve the transaction every time? It sounds more like you’re just ignorant as to how open these systems still are to abuse…

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                    • Jakob FelJ Jakob Fel

                      … Exactly why I can’t stand that platform. Instead of just leaving that trash off the platform, they’re fighting for it.

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                      serenesadie@lemmy.myserv.one
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                      Keep an eye out for rocks through your window, pal.

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                      • Jakob FelJ Jakob Fel

                        … Exactly why I can’t stand that platform. Instead of just leaving that trash off the platform, they’re fighting for it.

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                        harvey656@lemmy.world
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                        Found the censorship lover. I’m gonna write so much smut with your username now, the real nasty cuckoldry kind then turn it into a twine game and once itch return to normal I am posting it on there.

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                        • A azertyfun@sh.itjust.works

                          What Americans tend to refer to as β€œfraud protection” is charge back policies, where the payment processor acts as Content Police and revert transactions if they hear the vendor was unfair to their customer (and they usually are on the side of the customer).

                          My EU bank won’t do that even on my credit card, because it’s insane that one would expect a financial institution to be judge, jury, and executioner in the case of a disagreement over legal services rendered.

                          Americans have to own up to the uncomfortable fact that dependence on these policies is what keeps the big credit cars companies in power, on top of severely driving up consumer prices (unfairly weighted towards the rich of course who get cashbacks thanks to the obscene money Visa makes on their enormous transaction fees) and being incredibly unfair to small vendors who don’t have the means to meaningfully dispute fraudulent chargebacks.

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                          totalcourage007@lemmy.world
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                          I’m cool with going around the system if it has become corrupt by enforcing censorship. We need a way for CryptoCurrency to become standard.

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                          • T taldan@lemmy.world

                            Or, even worse: At the whims of the president

                            It would be a convenient way to bypass having to pass legislation, allowing more consolidation of power in the executive branch

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                            revan343@lemmy.ca
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                            Up next for removal: Wolfenstein; because it hurts the Nazis feelings

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                            • Jakob FelJ Jakob Fel

                              … Exactly why I can’t stand that platform. Instead of just leaving that trash off the platform, they’re fighting for it.

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                              Fluffy Kitty Cat
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                              Fuck off Nazi

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                              • perogiboi@lemmy.caP perogiboi@lemmy.ca

                                This is the start. Mastercard and Visa will soon block you from other content like movies and music (if it’s explicit) and books.

                                They are at the whims of religious extremists.

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                                Fluffy Kitty Cat
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                                Christ Card companies

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                                • S skyestarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                  Wait, where in the world does that happen?

                                  …don’t tell me that in the US if someone has your banking details they can do literally anything they want, and just empty your account

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                                  Fluffy Kitty Cat
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                                  Yes that’s how it works

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                                  • M motoash@lemmy.world

                                    So what do you do to set up automatic payments or buy something online where chips cannot be read? Do you get a notification to approve the transaction every time? It sounds more like you’re just ignorant as to how open these systems still are to abuse…

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                                    skyestarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    Yes. Every purchase I do has two-factor authentication

                                    If I do automatic payment, I need to set it up manually and also set a custom limit of how much is allowed to be pulled. I also typically get a notification every time an automatic transaction is planned to occur

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                                    • Jakob FelJ Jakob Fel

                                      … Exactly why I can’t stand that platform. Instead of just leaving that trash off the platform, they’re fighting for it.

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                                      ObjectivityIncarnate
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                                      Anyone else having Jack Thompson flashbacks, except worse because it’s actually gaining some traction?

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                                        danhab99@programming.dev
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                                        Rule of acquisition #85: Never let the competition know what you’re thinking

                                        In this case I interpret the competition to be the various payment processors that might be willing to serve for additional fees

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                                        • S skyestarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                          Yes. Every purchase I do has two-factor authentication

                                          If I do automatic payment, I need to set it up manually and also set a custom limit of how much is allowed to be pulled. I also typically get a notification every time an automatic transaction is planned to occur

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                                          ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          I fucking wish

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