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  • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

    During the previous round of shirkflation I warned people about knowing what year a recipe was from because “a can” means something different in 2004 than in 2010. And now it means something different again in 2025.

    Now boxes are getting the shrink treatment too.

    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/618032

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    zedd_prophecy@lemmy.world
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    Because of this I won’t buy any box mixes anymore - they were almost always overpriced for what you got and didn’t contain anything magical… They just made things simpler. I’ll make my cakes and cookies from scratch now and save a fortune.

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    • Z zedd_prophecy@lemmy.world

      Because of this I won’t buy any box mixes anymore - they were almost always overpriced for what you got and didn’t contain anything magical… They just made things simpler. I’ll make my cakes and cookies from scratch now and save a fortune.

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      FauxPseudo
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      This is the way.

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      • T timeworntraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Cmon man, there’s two kinds of recipes: one with exact measurements and precise instructions, usually written in metric with a lot of notes and contingencies… and then there’s general guideline cheat sheets and refreshers, which you use when you already know how to cook it.

        If a recipe tells me “a couple spoonsful” and I don’t know what to do, the problem is not the recipe, it’s that I don’t know what I’m doing.

        So what do you do? you learn. or I guess you could be like NileRed and watch food burn in front of your face because you don’t want to deviate from the recipe. over and over again. but hopefully you’ll learn to deviate soon.

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        quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works
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        There are recipes based on package sizes which is fine for chocolate chips or nuts but becomes intensely problematic when it is leavening ingredients. Half-a box of bisquick was a valid measure when there was one size on the shelf.

        Some of my family recipes go back 150-250 years so along the way some of the collection contains cards calling for a tin of x, y, or z. I still sometimes use a ham glaze that calls for a bottle of coca cola.

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        • N notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world

          I’m all for using box mixes like this to make something easier if you wanna bake shit… but this seems a bit odd…

          “It’s just so upsetting,” says Judith, whose cookie recipe was passed down by her mother. These “perfect little cookies” once made the rounds at bake sales, Christmas cookie exchanges, and birthdays. She now calls them “unusable.” She could buy an additional box to make up the difference, she acknowledges, “but out of principle, I just can’t.”

          It was a box mix… does that really need passing down? It looks like she sub’d oil for butter and thats it. I’m sure the box suggests a little less butter now… so like, a little less oil? I can’t imagine the box mix cookies are just plain trash now either, unless they just are.

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          quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works
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          #129

          You have a different quantity of leavening relative to ypur fats due to the size change. The whole thing will be goopy until you sort out the baking soda/powder which can get difficult since you use so little relative to the volume of the batch.

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          • Captain AggravatedC Captain Aggravated

            HAHAHA that recipe is half a dump cake.

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            ShellMonkey
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            Hadn’t heard the term before but it does look like it.

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              Hadn’t heard the term before but it does look like it.

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              Captain Aggravated
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              I know of a dump cake as a thing to do on a family camping trip. Canned fruit, cake mix, butter and I think some other ingredient are simply dumped into a baking dish or dutch oven, resulting in a cobbler-like substance which 10 year olds will love. Here we’re making half of one in an instant pot, because everything had to be done in an instant pot. I remember seeing a recipe for making wine in an instant pot. YOU DON’T APPLY HEAT OR PRESSURE TO GRAPE JUICE TO MAKE WINE!

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              • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                During the previous round of shirkflation I warned people about knowing what year a recipe was from because “a can” means something different in 2004 than in 2010. And now it means something different again in 2025.

                Now boxes are getting the shrink treatment too.

                cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/618032

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                humorlessrepost@lemmy.world
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                It would be better if other recipes adjusted accordingly.

                The Zatarans Jambalaya box still says to add a pound of smoked sausage. But those sausages went down to 14oz. Then 12oz. Now some are 10oz. The box still says to add a pound. It’s becoming a hotdog/bun situation.

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                • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                  During the previous round of shirkflation I warned people about knowing what year a recipe was from because “a can” means something different in 2004 than in 2010. And now it means something different again in 2025.

                  Now boxes are getting the shrink treatment too.

                  cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/618032

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                  lemmythinkaboutthat@lemmy.myserv.one
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                  This explains everything.

                  I made some things from hand me down recipes recently that I had memorized and they seemed a bit off. So I dug up the recipes (a can of this and a container of that) and assumed that I was going insane.

                  These c°ck$uck!ng m0th3rf^ck€r$… Grrr!

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                  • L lemmythinkaboutthat@lemmy.myserv.one

                    This explains everything.

                    I made some things from hand me down recipes recently that I had memorized and they seemed a bit off. So I dug up the recipes (a can of this and a container of that) and assumed that I was going insane.

                    These c°ck$uck!ng m0th3rf^ck€r$… Grrr!

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                    FauxPseudo
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                    Okay but some of my favorite people in life have been cock suckers. Which is why I hate it as a pejorative.

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                    • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                      One scoop of rice. Rinsed a few times until the water is mostly clear. Throw it in the pot I always use for rice. Add water to the lower line that has developed over the years of making rice in the same pot. The upper line is from making mac and cheese so don’t use that one. Some salt. Maybe some oil or butter depending on the final dish. Place the lid on.

                      Bring to a boil, reduce to low. Wait until the lid harmonics change to tell you there isn’t any liquid water in there anymore. Use a fork to check the bottom of the pot for water. Done.

                      No one else here knows how to make rice. Everyone thinks a rice cooker would make my life easier. I had one. I tossed it because it kept scorching the rice.

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                      lemmythinkaboutthat@lemmy.myserv.one
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                      The crispy rice at the bottom of your pot is tahdig in Persian, tutong in Tagalog. In some cultures and families, they fight over the crispy rice, lol.

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                      • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                        I don’t measure rice & water

                        oh dude entire family agrees that i make the best rice in the family and i’ve tried to teach them how i make the rice but like it’s a big fucking argument how to make rice properly. at this point i think it’s just become a joke.

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                        lemmythinkaboutthat@lemmy.myserv.one
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                        I’m curious, do you use the first line on your middle finger to measure water?

                        That’s how my grandmother taught us (pot and rice cooker).

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                        • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                          Okay but some of my favorite people in life have been cock suckers. Which is why I hate it as a pejorative.

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                          NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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                          Everyone I know has an asshole, yet here we are…

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                          • L lemmythinkaboutthat@lemmy.myserv.one

                            I’m curious, do you use the first line on your middle finger to measure water?

                            That’s how my grandmother taught us (pot and rice cooker).

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                            heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                            i used to use my index finger, now i’m all about different ratios of water to rice depending on the grain because i’m fancy. we’ve got a 25 lb bag of jasmine we’re working through that i do 3water:2rice + 1T butter + 1/2 t salt.

                            Current project is good garlic rice, so i’ve been sauteing up some garlic butter (for 1 cup of rice, 10 cloves in 4T butter, then adding all the cloves and 1T of the garlic butter), but it’s not quite garlicky enough. I’m not sure whether i need more cloves or to make the butter more garlicky somehow.

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                              The crispy rice at the bottom of your pot is tahdig in Persian, tutong in Tagalog. In some cultures and families, they fight over the crispy rice, lol.

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                              FauxPseudo
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                              Yeah but it kinda messes up fried rice

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                              • L lemmythinkaboutthat@lemmy.myserv.one

                                The crispy rice at the bottom of your pot is tahdig in Persian, tutong in Tagalog. In some cultures and families, they fight over the crispy rice, lol.

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                                heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                                i can never get tahdig right, pressure cooker or stovetop. we used to have a kebab place around the corner that included it in their rice and i did everything i could to keep them in business. they closed march 2020 and left the country. good for them.

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                                • C capricorn_geriatric@lemmy.world

                                  No.

                                  You need to think in a Truman-Eisenhower can, a Reagan can, a Bush can and an Obama can just as you do about dollars for pretty much every year on record.

                                  Now, I wonder: How many 1979 dollars in a 1990 box of Kellogs?

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                                  ultrafastsloth@lemmy.world
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                                  Oooh, that’s what Obama meant by “yes we can”

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                                  • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                                    i used to use my index finger, now i’m all about different ratios of water to rice depending on the grain because i’m fancy. we’ve got a 25 lb bag of jasmine we’re working through that i do 3water:2rice + 1T butter + 1/2 t salt.

                                    Current project is good garlic rice, so i’ve been sauteing up some garlic butter (for 1 cup of rice, 10 cloves in 4T butter, then adding all the cloves and 1T of the garlic butter), but it’s not quite garlicky enough. I’m not sure whether i need more cloves or to make the butter more garlicky somehow.

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                                    lemmythinkaboutthat@lemmy.myserv.one
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                                    You and my dad would get along great. He uses a whole bulb; his fried rice version has this toasted garlic flavor that’s just tasty.

                                    My SIL adds Better Than Bouillon Roasted Garlic with her garlic rice (I dont remember if it’s a teaspoon or tablespoon).

                                    Another version we learned was adding a combo of grated garlic and baked garlic; they both have different yet distinct flavors. That’s my aunt’s version and she uses chicken broth (Alton Brown’s recipe).

                                    Lol on the fancy… good for you. You’re right though, different kinds of rice require different amounts of water. We already got that lecture from our grandparents a looooong time ago.

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                                    • L lemmythinkaboutthat@lemmy.myserv.one

                                      You and my dad would get along great. He uses a whole bulb; his fried rice version has this toasted garlic flavor that’s just tasty.

                                      My SIL adds Better Than Bouillon Roasted Garlic with her garlic rice (I dont remember if it’s a teaspoon or tablespoon).

                                      Another version we learned was adding a combo of grated garlic and baked garlic; they both have different yet distinct flavors. That’s my aunt’s version and she uses chicken broth (Alton Brown’s recipe).

                                      Lol on the fancy… good for you. You’re right though, different kinds of rice require different amounts of water. We already got that lecture from our grandparents a looooong time ago.

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                                      heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                                      we went to the greek festival a couple weekends ago and came home with a whole quart of fresh toum. i’m about halfway through and the cats are about used to my new smell

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                                      • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                                        One scoop of rice. Rinsed a few times until the water is mostly clear. Throw it in the pot I always use for rice. Add water to the lower line that has developed over the years of making rice in the same pot. The upper line is from making mac and cheese so don’t use that one. Some salt. Maybe some oil or butter depending on the final dish. Place the lid on.

                                        Bring to a boil, reduce to low. Wait until the lid harmonics change to tell you there isn’t any liquid water in there anymore. Use a fork to check the bottom of the pot for water. Done.

                                        No one else here knows how to make rice. Everyone thinks a rice cooker would make my life easier. I had one. I tossed it because it kept scorching the rice.

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                                        threeme2189@lemmy.world
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                                        the lower line that has developed over the years of making rice in the same pot. The upper line is from making mac and cheese

                                        Maybe you need to scrub your pots more thoroughly. If they’re stainless steel or something similar there shouldn’t be any permanent stains forming unless you don’t use enough elbow grease.

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                                        • T treczoks@lemmy.world

                                          Cooking freehanded can work. Cooking is art. Baking, on the other hand, is science. Every ingredient must be measured precisely, or you’ll get seriously funny results. And often on the bad side of funny.

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                                          xep@discuss.online
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                                          You can also science cooking. Meat thermometers are absolutely fantastic.

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