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'Knowing Steam players are hoarders explains why you give Valve that 30%,' analyst tells devs: 'You get access to a bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly'

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  • TheLowestStoneT TheLowestStone

    Yup. I bought The Forest for $2 a year ago and I’m sure I’ll play it eventually.

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    lost_faith
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    Play in VR if you can, amazing experience

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      sonofantenora@lemmy.world
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      #29

      He’s right

      Some people have huge backlogs of games they will naver be able to play, some games alone will count for hundreds of hours of playtime.

      You can’t manage all them, and that platform encourages overspending

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      • ShadowedcrossS Shadowedcross

        I do have a lot of games but most of them came from big bundles from Humble Bundle.

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        brisk@aussie.zone
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        Word. It’s not hoarding it’s “yeah I’d pay $16 dollars for that one game and I’ll give a couple of others a go”. I didn’t just never get around to Kane and Lynch, I never had any interest in it.

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          korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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          Barely bought anything this year because I am still finishing Factorio. 1600 hours on steam and countless more from the non steam version of the game.

          The factory must grow. My SA deathworld save is up to around 3000 SPM.

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          • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

            Barely bought anything this year because I am still finishing Factorio. 1600 hours on steam and countless more from the non steam version of the game.

            The factory must grow. My SA deathworld save is up to around 3000 SPM.

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            lobut@lemmy.ca
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            Factorio is a game where I’ll spend so much time and getting pretty far. Then I’ll “refactor” some parts for efficiency. Then I get like a new science and I’ll be like, I can’t make this work and give up.

            Then I’ll start again later thinking I’ll get it right the next time!

            Although, if I had my robo flying stuff set up correctly then this wouldn’t be an issue.

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              I Cast Fist
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              WELL, I’ll let you know that my GOG collection is larger than my Steam collection!

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                ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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                It’s not any different than getting on the apple app store, they even take 30% too.

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                  I mean, where is the lie? Gimme cheap games, I’ll “buy” all of them!

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                  richardwallass@sh.itjust.works
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                  It’s not cheap

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                  • B brisk@aussie.zone

                    Word. It’s not hoarding it’s “yeah I’d pay $16 dollars for that one game and I’ll give a couple of others a go”. I didn’t just never get around to Kane and Lynch, I never had any interest in it.

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                    bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
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                    Aww man K+L has one of the most surreal co-op experiences ever put into a video game.

                    It legit gets one player to think the other has gone completely off the rails.

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                      lordnikon@lemmy.world
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                      It seems like a ignorant take. It’s FOMO but instead of a missing out on a loot box or a silly cosmetic for a high price. It’s about missing out on the sale for a low price.

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                      • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                        Barely bought anything this year because I am still finishing Factorio. 1600 hours on steam and countless more from the non steam version of the game.

                        The factory must grow. My SA deathworld save is up to around 3000 SPM.

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                        angrycommiekender@lemmy.world
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                        I put Factorio down for a bit. I have almost 4,000 hours in Factorio, and almost 3,000 hours in Dyson Sphere Program. Been playing Derail Valley Simulator, Schedule 1, and Vintage Story recently.

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                          Green Wizard
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                          Will I get around to playing my whole library? God no, but do i want to give this indie Dev my money? God yes!

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                            It’s not cheap

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                            Bo7a
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                            As with almost everything. Cheap is subjective. And not even just as in “I have more money so everything is cheaper for me” but also like “The value I derive from this thing for my specific use-case makes the cost feel cheap. To me.”

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                              binturong@lemmy.ca
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                              This just sounds like sour grapes whining paid for by Epic games who actually just want that to be them rather than Steam, despite Steam having provided the same service for free, consistently, for multiple decades now. The real offense here is PC Gamer attacking its primary consumer base (try to tell me the majority of PC gamers aren’t Steam users), so you KNOW Epic is paying a shit-ton for this manufactured consent and wish-casting. Counterpoint to this article: having more games that you want to play than you have time for, without breaking the bank, is GOOD actually, and other launch platforms only seek to enshittify YOUR experience for their own gain. Thanks!

                              Edit: grammar

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                                lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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                                The perfect south park clip to illustrate this story:

                                Randy explains how stupid other people are with their money.

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                                • S state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de

                                  Then technically I am correct? If Valve just shuts down, it’s all gone. You might find a workaround for some of the stuff you happen to have downloaded right now, but in general, everything you “bought” is gone.

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                                  greyeyedghost@lemmy.ca
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                                  “Technically, if your computer breaks and you can’t recover those games after Valve decides to close its doors, those games are gone forever.” Yeah, and? Is there a storefront that doesn’t apply to? Just how long do you think CDs and floppy disks (and the hardware to access them) last, if you haven’t lost them already? Is it more or less than Valve’s lifespan so far?

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                                  • A angrycommiekender@lemmy.world

                                    I put Factorio down for a bit. I have almost 4,000 hours in Factorio, and almost 3,000 hours in Dyson Sphere Program. Been playing Derail Valley Simulator, Schedule 1, and Vintage Story recently.

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                                    korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                                    Vintage Story is one I have played a lot of, got it a long time ago before they even had seasons or food spoilage.

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                                      What recent developments?

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                                      geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      I was thinking of developments in the industry as a whole. Valve themselves have been the only beacon of hope, but for how long.

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                                      • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world

                                        Probably supporting Linux and open source is now evil or so.

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                                        geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        Sorry I wasn’t clear, I’m a big fan of Valve’s efforts, it’s just that they are the only ones right now and I’m wondering how long until they too fall like the rest of the industry.

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                                          krauerking@lemy.lol
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                                          Heh as if I wasn’t an idiot and bloated my own steam library with fanatical mystery bundles and all those developers didn’t walk away with a completely random dollar and a chance to actually have a game get noticed and steam got zilch.

                                          It honestly just sounds like a productive economy that’s constantly moving and giving opportunities to developers even if they aren’t getting nothing but ravid fans. Like how busking might work in a wealthy thriving city compared to a poor one.

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