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'Knowing Steam players are hoarders explains why you give Valve that 30%,' analyst tells devs: 'You get access to a bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly'

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  • S state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de

    If gaben decides tomorrow to shut it all down, everything is gone. They might have a lot of good will based on past behavior, but in the end it’s still a company and you have zero control over what they do. You don’t actually own any of those games.

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    lfrith@lemmy.ca
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    If steam shutdown it would probably mean PC gaming itself is dead and the industry is in really big trouble.

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      Shadowedcross
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      I do have a lot of games but most of them came from big bundles from Humble Bundle.

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      • S state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de

        Then technically I am correct? If Valve just shuts down, it’s all gone. You might find a workaround for some of the stuff you happen to have downloaded right now, but in general, everything you “bought” is gone.

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        lfrith@lemmy.ca
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        Technically it would be the same case for GOG too if that happened, since the average consimer doesn’t back up all the games they pay for.

        In the end when it comes to digital most consumers rely on convenience and trust than taking the extra step to back up stuff so they remove the dependency.

        That’s why the actual back up for lot of people is piracy as the final line of defense and archiving.

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        • TheLowestStoneT TheLowestStone

          Yup. I bought The Forest for $2 a year ago and I’m sure I’ll play it eventually.

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          lost_faith
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          Play in VR if you can, amazing experience

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            sonofantenora@lemmy.world
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            He’s right

            Some people have huge backlogs of games they will naver be able to play, some games alone will count for hundreds of hours of playtime.

            You can’t manage all them, and that platform encourages overspending

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            • ShadowedcrossS Shadowedcross

              I do have a lot of games but most of them came from big bundles from Humble Bundle.

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              brisk@aussie.zone
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              Word. It’s not hoarding it’s “yeah I’d pay $16 dollars for that one game and I’ll give a couple of others a go”. I didn’t just never get around to Kane and Lynch, I never had any interest in it.

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                korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                Barely bought anything this year because I am still finishing Factorio. 1600 hours on steam and countless more from the non steam version of the game.

                The factory must grow. My SA deathworld save is up to around 3000 SPM.

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                • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                  Barely bought anything this year because I am still finishing Factorio. 1600 hours on steam and countless more from the non steam version of the game.

                  The factory must grow. My SA deathworld save is up to around 3000 SPM.

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                  lobut@lemmy.ca
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                  Factorio is a game where I’ll spend so much time and getting pretty far. Then I’ll “refactor” some parts for efficiency. Then I get like a new science and I’ll be like, I can’t make this work and give up.

                  Then I’ll start again later thinking I’ll get it right the next time!

                  Although, if I had my robo flying stuff set up correctly then this wouldn’t be an issue.

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                    I Cast Fist
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                    WELL, I’ll let you know that my GOG collection is larger than my Steam collection!

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                      ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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                      It’s not any different than getting on the apple app store, they even take 30% too.

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                        I mean, where is the lie? Gimme cheap games, I’ll “buy” all of them!

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                        richardwallass@sh.itjust.works
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                        It’s not cheap

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                        • B brisk@aussie.zone

                          Word. It’s not hoarding it’s “yeah I’d pay $16 dollars for that one game and I’ll give a couple of others a go”. I didn’t just never get around to Kane and Lynch, I never had any interest in it.

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                          bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
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                          Aww man K+L has one of the most surreal co-op experiences ever put into a video game.

                          It legit gets one player to think the other has gone completely off the rails.

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                            lordnikon@lemmy.world
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                            It seems like a ignorant take. It’s FOMO but instead of a missing out on a loot box or a silly cosmetic for a high price. It’s about missing out on the sale for a low price.

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                            • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                              Barely bought anything this year because I am still finishing Factorio. 1600 hours on steam and countless more from the non steam version of the game.

                              The factory must grow. My SA deathworld save is up to around 3000 SPM.

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                              angrycommiekender@lemmy.world
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                              I put Factorio down for a bit. I have almost 4,000 hours in Factorio, and almost 3,000 hours in Dyson Sphere Program. Been playing Derail Valley Simulator, Schedule 1, and Vintage Story recently.

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                                Green Wizard
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                                Will I get around to playing my whole library? God no, but do i want to give this indie Dev my money? God yes!

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                                • R richardwallass@sh.itjust.works

                                  It’s not cheap

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                                  Bo7a
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                                  As with almost everything. Cheap is subjective. And not even just as in “I have more money so everything is cheaper for me” but also like “The value I derive from this thing for my specific use-case makes the cost feel cheap. To me.”

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                                    binturong@lemmy.ca
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                                    This just sounds like sour grapes whining paid for by Epic games who actually just want that to be them rather than Steam, despite Steam having provided the same service for free, consistently, for multiple decades now. The real offense here is PC Gamer attacking its primary consumer base (try to tell me the majority of PC gamers aren’t Steam users), so you KNOW Epic is paying a shit-ton for this manufactured consent and wish-casting. Counterpoint to this article: having more games that you want to play than you have time for, without breaking the bank, is GOOD actually, and other launch platforms only seek to enshittify YOUR experience for their own gain. Thanks!

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                                      lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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                                      The perfect south park clip to illustrate this story:

                                      Randy explains how stupid other people are with their money.

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                                      • S state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de

                                        Then technically I am correct? If Valve just shuts down, it’s all gone. You might find a workaround for some of the stuff you happen to have downloaded right now, but in general, everything you “bought” is gone.

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                                        greyeyedghost@lemmy.ca
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                                        “Technically, if your computer breaks and you can’t recover those games after Valve decides to close its doors, those games are gone forever.” Yeah, and? Is there a storefront that doesn’t apply to? Just how long do you think CDs and floppy disks (and the hardware to access them) last, if you haven’t lost them already? Is it more or less than Valve’s lifespan so far?

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                                        • A angrycommiekender@lemmy.world

                                          I put Factorio down for a bit. I have almost 4,000 hours in Factorio, and almost 3,000 hours in Dyson Sphere Program. Been playing Derail Valley Simulator, Schedule 1, and Vintage Story recently.

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                                          korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                                          Vintage Story is one I have played a lot of, got it a long time ago before they even had seasons or food spoilage.

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