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What 5 games would you recommend for the broadest possible sample of table top RPGs and story games?

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  • B birbseed@lemmy.world
    • Mothership, great pulp scifi horror that works for one shots or long campaigns.
    • Blades in the Dark, think oceans 11, or peaky blinders but haunted Victorian London.
    • Slugblaster, angsty teens traveling to other dimensions to skate and tag.
    • Numenera, billions of years in the future on earth. Medieval societies with tons of weird science so advanced its magic
    • Draw Steel, classic tactical mini based heroic fantasy. An evolution from D&D
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    naught101@lemmy.world
    wrote on last edited by naught101@lemmy.world
    #17

    I’ve got slugblaster coming in the mail - the character arc mechanic looks awesome

    I don’t know most of these - how well does this represent the diversity of mechanics?

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    • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

      I’d never heard of “Bleed” until one player got very in-real-life upset about their character having a moderately bad time. The rest of us were like “this is some great drama and storytelling! And good job {upset-player} roleplaying!”, but then they were like actually mad at us. Kind of unsettling. Not a good experience.

      Their character was a musician and had been cursed, in a recent session, so if they played music then unknown bad things to the tune of a demonic incursion would happen. The other players didn’t like this, and the bleed player didn’t really believe it. They’d tried to play a song anyway, and when I described how the lights in the room became thin they physically stopped the player character from continuing, and put their instruments in their locked chest. The bleed-player didn’t like this. They secretly went and broke into the chest to get their stuff back. The other players were then mad, in-character, that this had happened. Like, they put the group at risk by fucking with their curse, and also broke into their personal belongings. It was good drama. Good interpersonal conflict. Big argument and juicy scene. Both sides had good points.

      Except the bleed-player was actually, genuinely, real-life, upset about all of this. We had to pause the game.

      To me it just felt messy and, I don’t know, like poor emotional regulation. You can feel a thing but why are you lashing out at the other players?

      Maybe that’s not a typical usage of bleed, but that’s what they said was happening.

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      naught101@lemmy.world
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      Sounds like something that should be dealt with via safety tools, and mentioned in a session zero. I’ve never seen something like that explicitly mentioned in safety tool guides though…

      And last session I did start to get (mildly) annoyed in real life at a character who was annoying in-game… so maybe I’ll add this to my list of things to mention pre-game.

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      • N naught101@lemmy.world

        I’ve got slugblaster coming in the mail - the character arc mechanic looks awesome

        I don’t know most of these - how well does this represent the diversity of mechanics?

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        birbenjoyer@lemmynsfw.com
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        #19

        Tons of mechanical uniqueness. I can’t go into it here but at a very basic level with dice:

        • Mothership percentile roll under
        • Numenera d20 roll over
        • Blades in the Dark d6s with tiered success
        • Draw steel 2d10 tiered success
        • Slugblaster d6 pools, highest result
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        • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

          Then again you did say they physically stopped the player so maybe they’re not the only person whose lines are a bit blurred.

          I communicated poorly! In-game they stopped the player character by saying their characters physically took the instruments away. We were playing remotely, so no one was physically interacting.

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          MolochAlter
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          #20

          I got it, it was just a funny slip in a conversation about mixing up player and character roles/feelings.

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          • N naught101@lemmy.world

            If someone was interested in understanding as much as possible what the world of TTRPGs and story games had to offer, which 5 games would you suggest they play first, and why?

            Ideally this would include a broad array of mechanics, themes and settings.

            Inspired by a discussion over at !rpgmemes@ttrpg.network : https://lemmy.world/post/33918016/18604654

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            INeedMana
            wrote last edited by ineedmana@piefed.zip
            #21

            Ordered list because some differences can be understood better in relation to others, but then dropping someone new into the deep waters of crunchy games would probably only confuse them

            1. Knave/MorkBorg/Fireball
              Use applicable setting if fantasy is not their thing
              • get them introduced easily
              • show more or less what we are coming from
              • to understand later on, what this branch distills to
            2. Something Gumshoe based
              • it needs to be understood that without combat, TTRPGs are not “20 questions” - guess what GM wants you to do
            3. Blades in the Dark
              • show that it can also be very gamified, almost approached like a series episode
              • narration doesn’t have to be only in GM’s hands
            4. Shadowrun/GURPS/Traveller
              • crunch games can be heavy to play but offer the most character customization possible
              • lore doesn’t have to fit in the rulebook
            5. SWADE/D&D
              • see what kind of games have the crown currently
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            • INeedManaI INeedMana

              Ordered list because some differences can be understood better in relation to others, but then dropping someone new into the deep waters of crunchy games would probably only confuse them

              1. Knave/MorkBorg/Fireball
                Use applicable setting if fantasy is not their thing
                • get them introduced easily
                • show more or less what we are coming from
                • to understand later on, what this branch distills to
              2. Something Gumshoe based
                • it needs to be understood that without combat, TTRPGs are not “20 questions” - guess what GM wants you to do
              3. Blades in the Dark
                • show that it can also be very gamified, almost approached like a series episode
                • narration doesn’t have to be only in GM’s hands
              4. Shadowrun/GURPS/Traveller
                • crunch games can be heavy to play but offer the most character customization possible
                • lore doesn’t have to fit in the rulebook
              5. SWADE/D&D
                • see what kind of games have the crown currently
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              naught101@lemmy.world
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              #22

              Awesome list, thanks! A few I’ve never heard of in there, and lots of good reasoning!

              BTW, I think maybe your lists need 4 spaces before the second level, and maybe no newlines between items?

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              • N naught101@lemmy.world

                Awesome list, thanks! A few I’ve never heard of in there, and lots of good reasoning!

                BTW, I think maybe your lists need 4 spaces before the second level, and maybe no newlines between items?

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                INeedMana
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                #23

                BTW, I think maybe your lists need 4 spaces before the second level, and maybe no newlines between items?

                No, those are second level lists (under the numbering), so that’s why are the empty ones. Deleting the sub-listing __ prefix makes numbering stop, adding additional two doesn’t change anything

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                • INeedManaI INeedMana

                  BTW, I think maybe your lists need 4 spaces before the second level, and maybe no newlines between items?

                  No, those are second level lists (under the numbering), so that’s why are the empty ones. Deleting the sub-listing __ prefix makes numbering stop, adding additional two doesn’t change anything

                  * thing 1
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                  naught101@lemmy.world
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                  #24

                  OK, it wasn’t rendering properly for me the first time I saw it

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                  • N naught101@lemmy.world

                    OK, it wasn’t rendering properly for me the first time I saw it

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                    INeedMana
                    wrote last edited by ineedmana@piefed.zip
                    #25

                    Huh. What are you viewing with?

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                    EDIT: You’re right. Apparently Lemmy needs 3 spaces before a sub-level, where PieFed is happy with 2

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                    • INeedManaI INeedMana

                      Huh. What are you viewing with?

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                      EDIT: You’re right. Apparently Lemmy needs 3 spaces before a sub-level, where PieFed is happy with 2

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                      naught101@lemmy.world
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                      #26

                      Yeah, first one is borked, second one looks good

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