ASICs and GPUs do share significant dependencies in the semiconductor supply chain. Building FABS fast enough to keep up with demand is difficult and resource constrained, both by expertise and high quality materials.

You are wrong about the market value of Bitcoin’s impact on the profitability of Bitcoin mining.

Is Bitcoin Mining Profitable?

Changes in technology and the creation of professional mining centers have affected profitability for individual Bitcoin miners.

Investopedia (www.investopedia.com)

Another thing to consider is that many coins still use proof of work, and an ASIC designed for one might not work for others. Some miners (especially the most scammy ones) choose the flexibility to switch coins at will. That doesn’t change the fact that ASIC now dominates, but GPUs do still have a share, especially for some of the newer scam coins.

I know it’s not indicative of the industry as a whole, but the Steam hardware survey has Nvidia at 75%. So while they’re still selling strong, as others have indicated, I’m not confident they’re getting used for gaming.

I don’t know, real world data maybe? Your one, or 2, or even 10 experiences are very insignificant statistically speaking. And of course it’s not a rare story, people who talk online about a product are most usually people with a bad experience, complaining about it, it kinda introduces a bias that you have to ignore. So you go for things like failure rates, which you can find online.

By the way, it’s almost never actually a fault from AMD or Nvidia, but the actual manufacturer of the card.

Edit: Not that I care about Internet points, but downvoting without a rebuttal is… Not very convincing

In my market the 5070 Ti is still 100-200 USD more expensive than 9070 XT.

Microsoft.

Microsoft is buying them for AI.

From what I understand, chatGPT is running on azure servers.

Who the fuck buys a consumer GPU for AI?

If you’re not doing it in a home lab, you’ll need more juice than anything a RTX 3000/4000/5000/whatever000 series could have.

Who the fuck buys a consumer GPU for AI?

Plenty. Consumer GPU + CPU offloading is a pretty common way to run MoEs these days, and not everyone will drop $40K just to run Deepseek in CUDA instead of hitting an API or something.

I can (just barely) run GLM-4.5 on a single 3090 desktop.

Thanks for explaining

The vast majority of consumers do not watch or read reviews. They walk into a Best Buy or whatever retailer and grab the box that says GeForce that has the biggest number within their budget. LTT even did a breakdown at some point that showed how even their most watched reviews have little to no impact on sales numbers. Nvidia has the mind share. In a lot of people’s minds GeForce = Graphics. And I say all that as someone who is currently on a Radeon 7900XTX. I’d be sad to see AMD and Intel quit the dGPU space, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

What’s the VRAM cartel story? Think I missed that.

I think Nvidia has better marketing. I never really hear anything about AMD cards, where I would I instead hear about Nvidia.

GTX 1080 Ti strong here lol

A persons actual experience with a product isnt real world data? Fan boys for huge companies are so weird.

… Yeah, for yourself.

I’m referring to anyone running an LLM for commercial purposes.

Y’know, 80% of Nvidia’s business?

I’m not sure that would even help that much, since tools out there already support CUDA, and even if AMD had a better version it would still require everyone to update apps to support it.

AMD needs to fix their software.

I had an AMD GPU last year for a couple weeks, but their software barely works. The overlay didn’t scale properly on a 4k screen and cut off half the info, and wouldn’t even show up at all most of the time, ‘ReLive’ with instant replay enabled caused a performance hit with stuttering in high FPS games…

Maybe they have it now, but I also couldn’t find a way to enable HDR on older games like Nvidia has.

Please read my entire comment, I also said your experience as one person is statistically insignificant. As in, you cannot rely on 1 bad experience considering the volume of GPUs sold. Anybody can be unlucky with a purchase and get a defective product, no matter how good the manufacturer is.

Also, please point out where I did any fanboyism. I did not take any side in my comments. Bad faith arguments are so weird.

Sure buddy, we’re all idiots for not liking the product you simp for. Got it.

I’ve kinda lost this thread, but what does that have to do with consumer GPU market share? The servers are a totally separate category.

I guess my original point was agreement: the 5000 series is not great for ‘AI’, not like everyone makes it out to be, to the point where folks who can’t drop $10K for a GPU are picking up older cards instead. But if you look at download stats for these models, there is interest in running stuff locally instead of ChatGPT, just like people are interested in internet free games, or Lemmy instead of Reddit.

Nice. Did not answer anything, did not point out where I’m simping, or being a fanboy. I’m not pro Nvidia, nor AMD, nor anything (rather than that I’m pretty anticonsumerism actually, not that you care).

You’re being extremely transparent in your bad faith.