Wait wait wait… If I push your theory a bit, it then means that Nvidia could crush AMD at any time, becoming a full fledged monopoly (and being able to rake in much more profits), but they are… Deciding not to? Out of the goodness in their hearts maybe?

That kind of comment always feels a bit weird to me; are you basing AMD’s worth as a GPU manufacturer on that one bad experience?

Absolutely, if a company I am trying for the first time gives me a bad experience, I will not go back. That’s me giving them a chance, and AMD fucked up that chance and I couldn’t even get a refund for like a $200 card. Choosing to try a different option resulted in me wasting time and money, and it pushed back my rig working for half a year until i could afford a working card again which really pissed me off.

I didn’t know that about intel cards, I’ll have to try one for my next upgrade if I can find on their site that they are supported.

No shame in that; AMD and Nvidia traded between ‘optimal buys’ forever. There were times where buying AMD was not the best idea, like with how amazing the Nvidia 900/1000 series was while AMD Vega was very expensive.

Others, it wasn’t obvious at the time. The old AMD 7000 series was pricey at launch, for instance, but aged ridiculously well. A 7950 would still function alright these days.

This market’s such a caricature now though. AMD/Intel are offering these obvious great values, yet being looked over through pure ignorance; I can’t remember things ever being like this, not all the way back to Nvidia Fermi at least.

I’m well aware. I’m one such tinkerer. Its a catch 22. No good software support means that no one really wants to use it. And since no one really wants to use it, amd doesn’t make stuff. Also amd is using much denser memory chips so an easy double in vram capacity isn’t as possible.

It took them a few months iirc to get proper support for 9070 in rocm.

At the end of the day I think it is this simple. CUDA works and developers use it so users get a tangible benefit.

AMD comes up with a better version of CUDA and you have the disruption needed to compete.

What else would a consumer base things on except their own experiences? Not like it’s a rare story either.

Hardware Lumen looks way better than only software

It’s still infinitely faster than ‘raytracing’ though.

ASICs and GPUs do share significant dependencies in the semiconductor supply chain. Building FABS fast enough to keep up with demand is difficult and resource constrained, both by expertise and high quality materials.

You are wrong about the market value of Bitcoin’s impact on the profitability of Bitcoin mining.

Is Bitcoin Mining Profitable?

Changes in technology and the creation of professional mining centers have affected profitability for individual Bitcoin miners.

Investopedia (www.investopedia.com)

Another thing to consider is that many coins still use proof of work, and an ASIC designed for one might not work for others. Some miners (especially the most scammy ones) choose the flexibility to switch coins at will. That doesn’t change the fact that ASIC now dominates, but GPUs do still have a share, especially for some of the newer scam coins.

I know it’s not indicative of the industry as a whole, but the Steam hardware survey has Nvidia at 75%. So while they’re still selling strong, as others have indicated, I’m not confident they’re getting used for gaming.

I don’t know, real world data maybe? Your one, or 2, or even 10 experiences are very insignificant statistically speaking. And of course it’s not a rare story, people who talk online about a product are most usually people with a bad experience, complaining about it, it kinda introduces a bias that you have to ignore. So you go for things like failure rates, which you can find online.

By the way, it’s almost never actually a fault from AMD or Nvidia, but the actual manufacturer of the card.

Edit: Not that I care about Internet points, but downvoting without a rebuttal is… Not very convincing

In my market the 5070 Ti is still 100-200 USD more expensive than 9070 XT.

Microsoft.

Microsoft is buying them for AI.

From what I understand, chatGPT is running on azure servers.

Who the fuck buys a consumer GPU for AI?

If you’re not doing it in a home lab, you’ll need more juice than anything a RTX 3000/4000/5000/whatever000 series could have.

Who the fuck buys a consumer GPU for AI?

Plenty. Consumer GPU + CPU offloading is a pretty common way to run MoEs these days, and not everyone will drop $40K just to run Deepseek in CUDA instead of hitting an API or something.

I can (just barely) run GLM-4.5 on a single 3090 desktop.

Thanks for explaining

The vast majority of consumers do not watch or read reviews. They walk into a Best Buy or whatever retailer and grab the box that says GeForce that has the biggest number within their budget. LTT even did a breakdown at some point that showed how even their most watched reviews have little to no impact on sales numbers. Nvidia has the mind share. In a lot of people’s minds GeForce = Graphics. And I say all that as someone who is currently on a Radeon 7900XTX. I’d be sad to see AMD and Intel quit the dGPU space, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

What’s the VRAM cartel story? Think I missed that.

I think Nvidia has better marketing. I never really hear anything about AMD cards, where I would I instead hear about Nvidia.

GTX 1080 Ti strong here lol