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  • bedbugcutlefish@lemmy.worldB bedbugcutlefish@lemmy.world

    If you were playing Bilbo in DnD 5e, the class that makes the most sense to give bilbo is Rogue. Commoner isn’t a class; bilbo could only be one if he was an NPC.

    Does he exactly map onto the DnD rogue chassis? No, he doesn’t, but he maps worse onto every other class.

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    HobbitFoot
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    I’d argue you could map Bilbo into a multiclass rogue and bard to get spells like Vicious Mockery. Bilbo’s main actions in “combat” include stealth checks, sneak attacks with Sting, stealing items, and using bardic spells to manipulate the situation for his benefit.

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      Im not saying the Rogue is the best at everything. I’m saying the Rogue is good at everything. You can take a class and replicate some of the stuff a rogue can do, but usually that means not being as good at other things. Rogues don’t have to make that choice. That’s why I don’t like rogues. A wizard could be the face and a damage dealer, but they can’t be the tank at the same time even though it’s possible for you to make a tank wizard. A ranger can be good at stealth and fighting, but that would probably make them a bad face. With each other class there is a trade off. Rogues as a class are a bunch of desperate parts slapped together and called a class.

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      HobbitFoot
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      A rogue makes a very poor tank compared to other classes.

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        A rogue makes a very poor tank compared to other classes.

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        its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        A rogue isn’t the best tank, but that again isn’t my argument.

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          explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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          Wizards: let’s compare notes

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            I’d argue you could map Bilbo into a multiclass rogue and bard to get spells like Vicious Mockery. Bilbo’s main actions in “combat” include stealth checks, sneak attacks with Sting, stealing items, and using bardic spells to manipulate the situation for his benefit.

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            its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Do all hobbits have to be a little rogue? Because in Tolkien’s stories hobbits being stealthy isn’t a skill it’s a species ability.

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              Do all hobbits have to be a little rogue? Because in Tolkien’s stories hobbits being stealthy isn’t a skill it’s a species ability.

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              jayjader@jlai.lu
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              Kinda like how in early versions of D&D elf and dwarf were classes.

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                Kinda like how in early versions of D&D elf and dwarf were classes.

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                its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                So you think all hobbits have to be lvl 1 rogues?

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                • I its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                  So you think all hobbits have to be lvl 1 rogues?

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                  jayjader@jlai.lu
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                  Not at all, merely sharing a parallel I just realized/remembered.

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                    Not at all, merely sharing a parallel I just realized/remembered.

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                    its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    Sorry, new here. Still having trouble keeping track of who said what, and who I’m quarreling with.

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                      dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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                      NGL, as a DM, multiple players with backstabbing abilities are a big problem to overcome. The odds begin to stack up in favor of the party. You start looking for monsters with the awareness of a beholder, but just a tad less lethal.

                      Then the mage starts hurling fireballs to remind you that you also need more fireproof options.

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                      • I its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                        Sorry, new here. Still having trouble keeping track of who said what, and who I’m quarreling with.

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                        jayjader@jlai.lu
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                        No problem! I’ve been here almost 2 years and I still get confused from time to time.

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