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The Outer Worlds with ray tracing can't hit 60FPS at paltry 540p resolution with an RTX 5090 and 9800X3D - ray tracing 'performance' mirrors Borderlands 4 fiasco

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  • T truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Yes, but it can be inefficient performance-wise, which is why precalculated lighting is often a mandatory performance setting in most games. The ideal goal is to use the dedicated RT hardware in a way that achieves similar graphical results but with minimal performance loss (to transfer the CPU-bound option to something that can comfortably run on most average consumer GPUs).

    Traditional Dynamic Lighting is definitely a good option to have for the user, though.

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    holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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    Some day we will have a cpu, gpu and a rtu. Need me a dedicated add in ray tracing card!

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    • A acockworkorange@mander.xyz

      I trust this source. Never pulled anything out of their ass that was false.

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      holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s a good ass, reliable if a bit stubborn. And man can it haul a load!

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      • V vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de

        because nvidia has somehow convinced the gaming world that hardware has become powerful enough for realtime path tracing. It has not. Not by a long shot. And not anytime soon.

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        ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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        It is…if you render the lighting at like 64x64 pixels and then “deep learning super scale” it to 4k and then AI generate 3 fakesuper-sampled frames for every real frame.

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          ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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          #40

          That’s…not true. I do have a fast card so I played with it on, but there were options to disable ray tracing and path tracing.

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          • recursive_recursionR recursive_recursion

            Why play Outer Worlds when you can play:

            • Outer Wilds

            Image of Outer Wilds

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            psythik@lemmy.world
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            #41

            Because I don’t like that game.

            I kept dying from the same mistakes over and over and couldn’t figure out what the hell I’m supposed to do or where to go. Supposely the ship log will update when you’ve made progress, but mine never did.

            Got bored of playing what is basically a Game Over simulator after a day of frustration and never touched it again. I guess I’m just too stupid/ADHD for a game like this.

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            • C cm0002@lemmy.zip

              It’s a new day, and another badly-optimized AAA Unreal Engine 5 game has hit store shelves. A couple of YouTubers, including Daniel Owen, have discovered serious performance problems in The Outer Worlds 2 that almost mirror Borderlands 4’s atrocious launch day performance. One of the most problematic graphics settings is the game’s ray tracing mode, which prevents even AMD’s Ryzen 7 9800X3D gaming champ from achieving 60 FPS at resolutions well under 1080p.

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              dukemirage@lemmy.world
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              So what, looks completely fine without the option.

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              • C cm0002@lemmy.zip

                It’s a new day, and another badly-optimized AAA Unreal Engine 5 game has hit store shelves. A couple of YouTubers, including Daniel Owen, have discovered serious performance problems in The Outer Worlds 2 that almost mirror Borderlands 4’s atrocious launch day performance. One of the most problematic graphics settings is the game’s ray tracing mode, which prevents even AMD’s Ryzen 7 9800X3D gaming champ from achieving 60 FPS at resolutions well under 1080p.

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                ssillyssadass
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                #43

                Am I the only one who doesn’t need real-time raytraced lighting? Show off the skills of your artists with some fancy pre-baked stuff instead.

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                • C cm0002@lemmy.zip

                  It’s a new day, and another badly-optimized AAA Unreal Engine 5 game has hit store shelves. A couple of YouTubers, including Daniel Owen, have discovered serious performance problems in The Outer Worlds 2 that almost mirror Borderlands 4’s atrocious launch day performance. One of the most problematic graphics settings is the game’s ray tracing mode, which prevents even AMD’s Ryzen 7 9800X3D gaming champ from achieving 60 FPS at resolutions well under 1080p.

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                  arcane2077@sh.itjust.works
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                  #44

                  To anyone who hasn’t seen it: The raytracing mode is actually broken and manages to look worse AND less realistic/accurate AND run like complete ass.

                  It’s not something anyone should turn on, and it’s genuinely wild that they shipped something so broken instead of hide it from the options

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                    BurgerBaron
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                    It’s very milquetoast critique in a safe corporate sort of way. Ironic.

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                    • A ssillyssadass

                      Am I the only one who doesn’t need real-time raytraced lighting? Show off the skills of your artists with some fancy pre-baked stuff instead.

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                      thermal_shock
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                      #46

                      I don’t need it, but not being able to do what it says with very recent hardware and shit resolutions is very telling of other major issues in the game.

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                      • A ssillyssadass

                        Am I the only one who doesn’t need real-time raytraced lighting? Show off the skills of your artists with some fancy pre-baked stuff instead.

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                        winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        #47

                        Or dare I say make a good game instead of just a shiny one

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                        • P psythik@lemmy.world

                          Because I don’t like that game.

                          I kept dying from the same mistakes over and over and couldn’t figure out what the hell I’m supposed to do or where to go. Supposely the ship log will update when you’ve made progress, but mine never did.

                          Got bored of playing what is basically a Game Over simulator after a day of frustration and never touched it again. I guess I’m just too stupid/ADHD for a game like this.

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                          thermal_shock
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                          Lmao game over simulator.

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                          • C cm0002@lemmy.zip

                            It’s a new day, and another badly-optimized AAA Unreal Engine 5 game has hit store shelves. A couple of YouTubers, including Daniel Owen, have discovered serious performance problems in The Outer Worlds 2 that almost mirror Borderlands 4’s atrocious launch day performance. One of the most problematic graphics settings is the game’s ray tracing mode, which prevents even AMD’s Ryzen 7 9800X3D gaming champ from achieving 60 FPS at resolutions well under 1080p.

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                            mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            Another day, another unreal engine game with massive performance issues.

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                            • C cm0002@lemmy.zip

                              It’s a new day, and another badly-optimized AAA Unreal Engine 5 game has hit store shelves. A couple of YouTubers, including Daniel Owen, have discovered serious performance problems in The Outer Worlds 2 that almost mirror Borderlands 4’s atrocious launch day performance. One of the most problematic graphics settings is the game’s ray tracing mode, which prevents even AMD’s Ryzen 7 9800X3D gaming champ from achieving 60 FPS at resolutions well under 1080p.

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                              muffi@programming.dev
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                              Imagine if modern GPU’s were actually designed with gaming in mind…

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                              • A ayyy@sh.itjust.works

                                That’s…not true. I do have a fast card so I played with it on, but there were options to disable ray tracing and path tracing.

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                                phlegmy@sh.itjust.works
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                                That’s…not true. There’s no way to disable ray tracing in that game without modding it.

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                                • recursive_recursionR recursive_recursion

                                  Why play Outer Worlds when you can play:

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                                  Image of Outer Wilds

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                                  tempest@lemmy.ca
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                                  It’s great but I threw in the towel after a few hours if play. I’ve never played a game that so readily gave me car sickness.

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                                  • I isolox@lemmy.world

                                    As someone playing this on a 3080 with no major issues, just turn off ray tracing. The game really isn’t that bad once you turn it off.

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                                    frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    I have a 3080, too, and I have a feeling it’s going to be a perfectly good card for a long, long time.

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                                    • E evil_shrubbery@thelemmy.club

                                      Y’all member the time when hardware demanding games meant awesome graphics?

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                                      Jerkface (any/all)
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                                      I remember texture mapped graphics on a 6502.

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                                      • T tempest@lemmy.ca

                                        It’s great but I threw in the towel after a few hours if play. I’ve never played a game that so readily gave me car sickness.

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                                        mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        Adding a pip to the center of the screen helps reduce motion sickness. I hadn’t experienced it until I installed a Skyrim mod that removed the reticle for most things. Suddenly I found myself getting mildly motion sick unless I was constantly un-hiding the reticle.

                                        Worth noting that some monitors have an option to manually add a pip. It’s meant for shooters when you’re meant to zoom in instead of hip firing, but it also works to reduce motion sickness.

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                                        • M muffi@programming.dev

                                          Imagine if modern GPU’s were actually designed with gaming in mind…

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                                          qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                          Imagine if modern games were designed with gaming in mind.

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