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Reject DRM embrace GOG

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    theobvioussolution@lemmy.ca
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    #133

    So, where can I purchase Nine Sols on GOG?

    It’s ridiculous that Nine Sols will get a Nintendo Switch release before going on GOG. I guess “many gamers” aren’t asking for it - oh wait: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/nine_sols https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/nine-sols-2024

    A marketplace that is all DRM-free is good, but when they begin to concede on censorship for the political agendas of certain countries because it might affect their Chinese releases because they have far more of a horse in the race than Valve as a developer does in the Chinese market, you have to balance what you consider a bigger issue: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1809540/Nine_Sols/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/555220/Detention/

    It only affects a very small minority of games, so it’s up to you whether you consider the censorship a deal breaker. Would a game with an Easter egg criticizing any other country’s politics caused the uproar Devotion did? There’s no shortage of games that do, and as a central plot element as opposed to a simple Easter egg. Then there’s also the fact that GOG insulted people’s intelligence with the excuse of “many gamers”, specially given their continued silence on other Red Candle Game releases that have no similar issues.

    If an art form cannot be used as a means of criticism, then it is not one that is free.

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    When fundamentals like this are so easily violated under ridiculous premises, further capitulation isn’t far behind.

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    • C chunes@lemmy.world

      An under-discussed topic is what will happen to Steam after Gaben crosses the rainbow bridge. It’s practically begging to be enshittified.

      With games I own, I never have to worry about this.

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      lumisal@lemmy.world
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      #134

      I mean, GOG is owned by Amazon soooo…

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        I mean, GOG is owned by Amazon soooo…

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        chunes@lemmy.world
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        #135

        No it isn’t

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        • M mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca

          I’m not trying to defend anyone here, though it might seem like that, but I’m not sure why valve is lumped in with this, especially since that’s the steam logo.

          Steam, as a platform, hasn’t released much of anything, ever. Valve has been sitting mostly on the sidelines since half-life 2 episode 2 and HL:Alyx.

          Steam itself is just a marketplace.

          I get that a lot of publishers on steam will fall into the categories of games that are the subject of the meme, but I have a hard time piling steam with the games that are published on it.

          And yes, corporations are not our friends, and all billionaires are bad billionaires, eat the rich and all that… I’m just saying. There’s a lot of bigger, much worse, fish to fry than gaben, valve, and steam in this discussion. That could have been EA’s logo, or the Xbox logo (or ms game studios or whatever) or any number of massive publishers that are relevant here. Using the steam logo is lazy at best.

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          generalemergency@lemmy.world
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          Steam.

          Owned by Valve.

          Published CS:GO.

          Home to the most deprived gambling economy, that set the blueprint for others to follow.

          Fuck Valve.

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          • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca

            GOG has DRM, they call it Galaxy.

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            sabin@lemmy.world
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            I don’t think it’s required for any titles.

            Would still be nice if they’d allow you to run games without the launcher open (assuming you use it to install them) though.

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              TachyonTele
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              #138

              Games that are multiplayer will usually use drm, yea.
              The thousands of other games do not.

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                Steam doesn’t enforce the use of its DRM (which is super easy to bypass anyway but that’s a side note).

                Steam lets you publish your game on their platform and hand out as many keys as you like to resell on other platforms (at no cost) while still doing all the heavy lifting of hosting and distributing.

                Steam doesn’t decide what kinds of titles get published on their platform any more than GoG does, so the bit about remasters, etc. is a bit weird. Besides you the user should get to decide what you want to buy and play.

                I love GoG, but I love Steam as well. They’re not mutually exclusive and you can have both.

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                TachyonTele
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                #139

                A voice of reason… about videogame platforms!?
                It’s nice to see you here, people are ridiculous about this stuff.

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                  captpretentious@lemmy.world
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                  #140

                  Fuck GOG.

                  Might be different, but when they launched what I think is their current launcher, it was still using example code from pre-Windows Vista days. This was 2020 I reach out to them, because my user files were mapped to a NAS, and the legacy example code they used didn’t support this. Steam has no issues. Epic had no issues.

                  All the people wondering why they don’t support Linux… Well that’s because they use outdated Windows code for their launcher.

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                  • C captpretentious@lemmy.world

                    Fuck GOG.

                    Might be different, but when they launched what I think is their current launcher, it was still using example code from pre-Windows Vista days. This was 2020 I reach out to them, because my user files were mapped to a NAS, and the legacy example code they used didn’t support this. Steam has no issues. Epic had no issues.

                    All the people wondering why they don’t support Linux… Well that’s because they use outdated Windows code for their launcher.

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                    BombOmOm
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                    #141

                    All the people wondering why they don’t support Linux

                    The Heroic launcher works great on Linux, and manages GOG, Epic, and Amazon games.

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                      Call me when GOG Galaxy supports Gnu/Linux.

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                      BombOmOm
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                      #142

                      Heroic with GOG works great on Linux. Why wait?

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                      • C captpretentious@lemmy.world

                        Fuck GOG.

                        Might be different, but when they launched what I think is their current launcher, it was still using example code from pre-Windows Vista days. This was 2020 I reach out to them, because my user files were mapped to a NAS, and the legacy example code they used didn’t support this. Steam has no issues. Epic had no issues.

                        All the people wondering why they don’t support Linux… Well that’s because they use outdated Windows code for their launcher.

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                        frongt@lemmy.zip
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                        User files mailed to a NAS? What?

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                        • T TachyonTele

                          Games that are multiplayer will usually use drm, yea.
                          The thousands of other games do not.

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                          ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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                          The very first game on the list;

                          Absolver - Boss re-matches are locked behind an online requirement. Boss loot too. As well as some techniques that can be used in offline play but can only be learned online. Absolver also installs the invasive EAC anti-cheat software even for single player and won’t start without it.

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                          • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip

                            I thought more of Lutris and GameHub, forgot about Heroic. There’s also Legendary and Cartridge but i don’t know them.

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                            skaffi@infosec.pub
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                            Heroic is FOSS, though, isn’t it? I thought Legendary was just Heroic, but without the GUI?

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                              Heroic is FOSS, though, isn’t it? I thought Legendary was just Heroic, but without the GUI?

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                              monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                              Looks like.

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                                User files mailed to a NAS? What?

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                                captpretentious@lemmy.world
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                                God damn prediction text keyboard. Mapped! (which this time was almost married… fucken Gboard)

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                                • C captpretentious@lemmy.world

                                  God damn prediction text keyboard. Mapped! (which this time was almost married… fucken Gboard)

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                                  frongt@lemmy.zip
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                                  Oh I see, you had that directory on a share mounted on the system. That should have been abstracted away by the OS, especially if it was SMB. NFS or iSCSI would have been a bit more tricky, but as long as it was addressable through a drive letter I would have expected it to work.

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                                    Oh I see, you had that directory on a share mounted on the system. That should have been abstracted away by the OS, especially if it was SMB. NFS or iSCSI would have been a bit more tricky, but as long as it was addressable through a drive letter I would have expected it to work.

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                                    captpretentious@lemmy.world
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                                    I thought the same. Everything else worked, but for whatever reason, only GOG didn’t. I actually still have the photo saved from it. I find errors about it dating back at least 2009. At the time I was looking into it, I found it was a common thing from some example code. And it wasn’t even new to GOG; the old installer had the same problem. Example, https://www.gog.com/forum/the_witcher_2/cannot_install_internal_error_failed_to_expand_shell_folder_constant_userdocs

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