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Epic CEO [Tim Sweeney] says AI disclosures like Steam's make "no sense" because AI will be involved in "nearly all" future game development

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  • D darkkite@lemmy.ml

    I think it should be more descriptive.

    using gpt as a stack overflow replacement should be fine or autocomplete for a simple for-loop

    using generative npcs, dialog, voice is another thing entirely

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    apotheotic (she/her)
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    #34

    Plenty of folks add what ai was used for in the description of their game. Works well enough.

    Personally I just avoid the games outright if ai was used at all, but yeah

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      šŸ”°HurlingāšœļøDurlingšŸ”±
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      #35

      They make sense because we don’t want your AI shit Sweeney

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      • N Nils

        Then some clueless person complains that Steam dominates the market. When Epic is constantly shooting their foot.

        People like to make informed decisions and those labels help. In proper countries even beer have content labels to say if there is rice or corn with the barley.

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        yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        #36

        One can be concerned by a monopoly even when there are no bad actors. Google used to be good before it was evil, and Gabe Newell will die eventually. Consolidation of market power (Audible for audiobooks, for instance, or Steam for video games) is not ideal. It is a shame Epic is such a piece of shit.

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          shape4985@lemmy.ml
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          #37

          This is just one of many examples on why epic is inferior

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            duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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            #38

            And CEOs will be the easiest position to replace with AI. Can’t wait for the share holders to figure that out.

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              kibiz0r@midwest.social
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              #39

              These guys live in a bubble, huffing each others’ farts

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              • K kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                I only play organic games.

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                zorque@lemmy.world
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                Indeed, I only play games generated by artificial brains grown in vats.

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                • Y yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  One can be concerned by a monopoly even when there are no bad actors. Google used to be good before it was evil, and Gabe Newell will die eventually. Consolidation of market power (Audible for audiobooks, for instance, or Steam for video games) is not ideal. It is a shame Epic is such a piece of shit.

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                  zorque@lemmy.world
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                  #41

                  Indeed, but shoving Steam under the bus, instead of critiquing their ā€œrivalsā€ for their lack of consumer-friendly alternatives, when for the most part they’re just doing their best seems counterintuitive.

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                  • J jaselle@lemmy.ca

                    What are his intentions?

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                    zorque@lemmy.world
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #42

                    Using AI to maximize his profits without people criticizing him for it.

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                      oni į“šį˜į—¢
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                      #43

                      nahh men. This is why you (Epic) are giving away games every week for free. Nobody likes you

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                        edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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                        #44

                        Super effective slop filter you say? Sign me the fuck up!

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                          LiveLM
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                          #45

                          Then put the disclaimer in all games? So what, not like they’re limited quantity

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                          • J jaselle@lemmy.ca

                            What are his intentions?

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                            lfrith@lemmy.ca
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                            #46

                            Unreal engine drive by AI with more AI for an AI powered AI peoples AI solution. AI the new AI buzz word thrown into everything to excite AI investors. AI AI with extra AI. Money please AI.

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                              _stranger_@lemmy.world
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                              #47

                              Never buy another Epic game again, understood!

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                              • apotheotic (she/her)A apotheotic (she/her)

                                Plenty of folks add what ai was used for in the description of their game. Works well enough.

                                Personally I just avoid the games outright if ai was used at all, but yeah

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                                darkkite@lemmy.ml
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                                would you avoid games with DLSS? if not where exactly is that line since it requires similar workflows as used in creating LLMs and contributes more to model development for nvidia and amd?

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                                • P PonyOfWar

                                  As long as AI doesn’t take away our hands, it’ll always be perfectly possible to draw our own art, compose our own music and write our own code. And especially in the open-source space, there’s plenty of creative software not jumping on the AI bandwagon.

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                                  ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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                                  It’s becoming nearly impossible to write code in a corporate environment without AI. Everyone has AI auto complete at the minimum, and AI code generation is at a point where it’s at least even with an entry level dev.

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                                  • A artyom

                                    If it’s available in ā€œnearly allā€ development then you can switch the tag to say ā€œno AIā€ and then I can continue discovering and buying games that don’t have that BS.

                                    But we all know, as does Sweeney, that that’s a lie. And also that I wouldn’t shop for games on Epic Store anyway, for reasons just like this.

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                                    figjam@midwest.social
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                                    I’d, some of these guys seem to be true believers. They are still ghouls to be shunned

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                                    • R ryathal@sh.itjust.works

                                      It’s becoming nearly impossible to write code in a corporate environment without AI. Everyone has AI auto complete at the minimum, and AI code generation is at a point where it’s at least even with an entry level dev.

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                                      NotSteve_
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                                      #51

                                      This is true. My company heavily pushes employees to use AI to write software

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                                      • D darkkite@lemmy.ml

                                        would you avoid games with DLSS? if not where exactly is that line since it requires similar workflows as used in creating LLMs and contributes more to model development for nvidia and amd?

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                                        apotheotic (she/her)
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                                        #52

                                        The location of the line is for each person to decide for themselves. Mine sits just before ai gets involved in the creation process. Llms for code, genai for art assets or concept art, that sort of thing. Won’t buy a game that involved that.

                                        Personally I don’t avoid DLSS but I am always overjoyed to see a game not leaning on it to reach playable framerates, since I find the graphical artifacting quite annoying and it doesn’t seem like they have a solution to it since I continue to see the swimming haze in modern titles.

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                                          zotethemighty@lemmy.zip
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                                          #53

                                          If most games will contain AI content, then an ā€œAI-freeā€ badge couldn’t be more important. He must understand that that statement is a complete logical fallacy, right?

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