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Epic CEO [Tim Sweeney] says AI disclosures like Steam's make "no sense" because AI will be involved in "nearly all" future game development

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  • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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    edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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    #44

    Super effective slop filter you say? Sign me the fuck up!

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      LiveLM
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      #45

      Then put the disclaimer in all games? So what, not like they’re limited quantity

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      • J jaselle@lemmy.ca

        What are his intentions?

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        lfrith@lemmy.ca
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        #46

        Unreal engine drive by AI with more AI for an AI powered AI peoples AI solution. AI the new AI buzz word thrown into everything to excite AI investors. AI AI with extra AI. Money please AI.

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          _stranger_@lemmy.world
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          Never buy another Epic game again, understood!

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          • apotheotic (she/her)A apotheotic (she/her)

            Plenty of folks add what ai was used for in the description of their game. Works well enough.

            Personally I just avoid the games outright if ai was used at all, but yeah

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            darkkite@lemmy.ml
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            #48

            would you avoid games with DLSS? if not where exactly is that line since it requires similar workflows as used in creating LLMs and contributes more to model development for nvidia and amd?

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            • P PonyOfWar

              As long as AI doesn’t take away our hands, it’ll always be perfectly possible to draw our own art, compose our own music and write our own code. And especially in the open-source space, there’s plenty of creative software not jumping on the AI bandwagon.

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              ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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              #49

              It’s becoming nearly impossible to write code in a corporate environment without AI. Everyone has AI auto complete at the minimum, and AI code generation is at a point where it’s at least even with an entry level dev.

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              • A artyom

                If it’s available in “nearly all” development then you can switch the tag to say “no AI” and then I can continue discovering and buying games that don’t have that BS.

                But we all know, as does Sweeney, that that’s a lie. And also that I wouldn’t shop for games on Epic Store anyway, for reasons just like this.

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                figjam@midwest.social
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                I’d, some of these guys seem to be true believers. They are still ghouls to be shunned

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                • R ryathal@sh.itjust.works

                  It’s becoming nearly impossible to write code in a corporate environment without AI. Everyone has AI auto complete at the minimum, and AI code generation is at a point where it’s at least even with an entry level dev.

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                  NotSteve_
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                  This is true. My company heavily pushes employees to use AI to write software

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                  • D darkkite@lemmy.ml

                    would you avoid games with DLSS? if not where exactly is that line since it requires similar workflows as used in creating LLMs and contributes more to model development for nvidia and amd?

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                    apotheotic (she/her)
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                    #52

                    The location of the line is for each person to decide for themselves. Mine sits just before ai gets involved in the creation process. Llms for code, genai for art assets or concept art, that sort of thing. Won’t buy a game that involved that.

                    Personally I don’t avoid DLSS but I am always overjoyed to see a game not leaning on it to reach playable framerates, since I find the graphical artifacting quite annoying and it doesn’t seem like they have a solution to it since I continue to see the swimming haze in modern titles.

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                      zotethemighty@lemmy.zip
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                      #53

                      If most games will contain AI content, then an “AI-free” badge couldn’t be more important. He must understand that that statement is a complete logical fallacy, right?

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                        holymole@lemmy.ca
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                        #54

                        I guess I won’t be buying nearly all games.

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                        • Z zotethemighty@lemmy.zip

                          If most games will contain AI content, then an “AI-free” badge couldn’t be more important. He must understand that that statement is a complete logical fallacy, right?

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                          cashsky@sh.itjust.works
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                          #55

                          Except every tool used for development is going to have some level of AI in it and unless you are also building your own AI free tool you aren’t going to know what’s truly AI free. AI is here and the cat’s out of the bag. There is no putting it back in at this point. We as a society need to figure out how to use it ethically.

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                            julysfire@lemmy.world
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                            #56

                            Epic CEO [Tim Sweeney] is an idiot

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                              coldwater@lemmy.ca
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                              And wonder why Steam is succeeded but Epic is an AI slop wasteland

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                              • C cashsky@sh.itjust.works

                                Except every tool used for development is going to have some level of AI in it and unless you are also building your own AI free tool you aren’t going to know what’s truly AI free. AI is here and the cat’s out of the bag. There is no putting it back in at this point. We as a society need to figure out how to use it ethically.

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                                pedz@lemmy.ca
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                                #58

                                We as a society need to figure out how to use it ethically.

                                We can’t even restrain ourselves on the usage of weapons, the extraction of natural resources, the usage of energy, consumerism, or cars. The way our societies are working will not give much chance to ethics.

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                                • Z zotethemighty@lemmy.zip

                                  If most games will contain AI content, then an “AI-free” badge couldn’t be more important. He must understand that that statement is a complete logical fallacy, right?

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                                  rizzrustbolt@lemmy.world
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                                  It’s Tim Sweeney, he doesn’t understand where the sun goes at night.

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                                    imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    Tim: Valve doesn’t understand the market. AI is going to lead gaming industry.

                                    Also Tim: VALVE IS A MONOPOLY AND SHOULD SEIZE TO EXIST.

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                                    • oni ᓚᘏᗢC oni ᓚᘏᗢ

                                      nahh men. This is why you (Epic) are giving away games every week for free. Nobody likes you

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                                      imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      Even giving out great games for free doesn’t make Epic more likeable. That is a next level failure.

                                      If anything, other companies need to do the same as Valve does to gain respect and popularity. But, here we are.

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                                        gloomsday@lemmy.world
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                                        #62

                                        Using AI for checking a code, and then double checking it yourself is different than some waste of sperm dictating prompts to AI, and telling his friends at parties while high on ketamine adderol and coke “this is going to be the next Morrowind x Cyberpunk x Mario Brother Kart Theft Auto” is the AI badge Valve is talking about.

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                                        • N Nils

                                          Then some clueless person complains that Steam dominates the market. When Epic is constantly shooting their foot.

                                          People like to make informed decisions and those labels help. In proper countries even beer have content labels to say if there is rice or corn with the barley.

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