When will America realize that this is not a joke. They'll be laughing right up to the goosestepping.
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NATO doesnt have any articles about one member attacking another.
Seems like an oversight.
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This is done because there are no consequences, no repercussions. A convicted felon and rapist is in charge instead of in jail. The checks and balances of their system have long since failed.
I’d like to cite the last two definitions given by Shoshanna Zuboff for surveillance capitalism:
7. A movement that aims to impose a new collective order based on total certainty; 8. An expropriation of critical human rights that is best understood as a coup from above: an overthrow of the people’s sovereignty. -
And Canadas next. This is not a drill. The orange shitgibbon and followers are not joking. Canadians will need to defend this country ourselves - even as our leaders continue to appease and suck up to the rogue US regime.
Not me. I will be taking The Long Sleep if the US invades.
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Exactly.
Confirm your trusted networks and trusted comms. Start planning ahead. Store 72h of food and water, make sure you have spare gas for generators. Establish meeting points. Stock up on first aid and medical supplies. Set a family rule for breaking news: “confirm before share” (at least two reputable sources; pause on ragebait, defend against disinfo social fracture. Get to know your neighbours, get involved in community, learn patterns.
If you have firearms make sure you have needed ammo and supplies.
If you have budget, learn to build and fly drones… Start with a cheap sim.
You’re describing a world not worth living in.
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US is in NATO so it doesn’t matter, to be honest NATO without US doesn’t exists because it’s EU, UK, US and Canada, that’s why EU wants Canada in and to be honest Canada should join to keep itself inside old union. US is heading towards BRICS right now.
Ironically I think joining BRICS would be a great move for the EU right now, both as an immediate out from the dollar based economic order and to pretty much jam soft power crowbar into BRICS itself that might turn it into a more open economic union and not just Chinas (and Russia playing with an unplugged controllers) sphere of influence.
That said I’m probably missing a TON of nuance that makes my take basic and dumb.
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Not me. I will be taking The Long Sleep if the US invades.
The easy way out. Let’s at least go out partying like it’s 1812.
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If you do please live stream it.
In all seriousness, I hope you don’t proceed. I can totally understand the anger and hate, but you would literally waste your life: they will paint you as a leftist radical and just use your attack as an excuse to arrest whoever protests against ICE, claiming they’re the reason you did what you think about doing.
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The easy way out. Let’s at least go out partying like it’s 1812.
You can do as you please. That’s not for me. I’ve been in a heightened state of anxiety for the past three days and it’s only going to get worse.
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You want me to live stream getting killed by ICE kidnappers. Thanks.
In all seriousness, I hope you don’t proceed. I can totally understand the anger and hate, but you would literally waste your life: they will paint you as a leftist radical and just use your attack as an excuse to arrest whoever protests against ICE, claiming they’re the reason you did what you think about doing.
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The easy way out. Let’s at least go out partying like it’s 1812.
Burn the White House again, not like it’s occupied anymore.
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Canadians? Shit, this should invoke and article 5 of NATO.
You REALLY think any other NATO’s member would lift a finger? Some will just make public statement saying that’s “not following international laws”, some will call for “de-escalation”, but no one will actually declare war to the US. They won’t even send equipment’s support to Denmark, as all they can spare was/is sent to Ukraine.
Similarly, is Canada actively preparing its army to defend Greenland from a US agression? Anyone believes Canada would do anything at all?
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Venezuela should have been the line. Want to make it Greenland? So, they can take mexico, Cuba?
Each inch they take is too much. They have proven that they are following the Fascist guidebook.
Venezuela is the first step. Same as Hitler with Poland.
No one, absolutely no one will come defend Greenland, not even Denmark. They would have to send F35 to defend it, with their missions entry going through a server… in the US!! (And these geniuses doubled down, ordering more F35 last october, and they just ordered more military equipment from the US!).
No NATO member will declare war to the US.
The only option they would have is to immediately build a military base in Greenland with forces from all European countries, ready to fight. And then, MAYBE Trump will think twice before invading it.
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You’re describing a world not worth living in.
Sorry, but these are prudent things to do if you wish to prepare for potential military activity in your country, or indeed some other form of catastrophic event.
You may choose to do these or you may not, but whether you want to live in this world may be irrelevant to whether it is thrust upon you.
And if one’s choice is instead to simply fold over and let someone like the US take over their country, I highly recommend that they keep that to themselves, and don’t get in the way of the people who are willing to fight. To be neutral is one thing, to be a traitor is rather another, and traitors do not historically get treated very kindly, particularly during occupation, when the state is too busy to enforce due process and mob justice is more likely. Mob justice is characteristically unpleasant.
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Sorry, but these are prudent things to do if you wish to prepare for potential military activity in your country, or indeed some other form of catastrophic event.
You may choose to do these or you may not, but whether you want to live in this world may be irrelevant to whether it is thrust upon you.
And if one’s choice is instead to simply fold over and let someone like the US take over their country, I highly recommend that they keep that to themselves, and don’t get in the way of the people who are willing to fight. To be neutral is one thing, to be a traitor is rather another, and traitors do not historically get treated very kindly, particularly during occupation, when the state is too busy to enforce due process and mob justice is more likely. Mob justice is characteristically unpleasant.
You’ve missed my entire point. I’ll be choosing to take The Long Sleep if the US invades. Our country would never be normal again.
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Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.
I am just waiting to see the mental gymnastics the regular US people will go through when they will be asked to fight vs EU people and they will just go with it.
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Hi, failed expat here. Tried to move to Guelph legally in 2023-24 because Nazification of the USA was incredibly obvious to anyone who reads. Canadians changed their laws to be racist to Indians and excluded me, even though I am a white masters degree holder who had professional connections in the region.
When I die fighting ICE outside of some middle school because I caught them trying to kidnap people at my work, know that I would have lived in peace. I literally just wanted to eat delicious cheesecake in Guelph with my hot wife (who doesn’t have full rights in the fucking USA).
*edit: I want the people who are downvoting this to explain to me which part exactly they disagree with, because I think the implication is pretty disgusting generally.
Honestly, north america is not the place to be. Canada was all ready to elect trump north and the guy we got is still a right wing banker. The only thing you’ll miss by not moving to Guelph is the awesome craft beer.
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Republicans want to add new states and are looking for conservative ones so they can keep control.
Yep. Expect any invasion to be in Alberta. I honestly believe this Canada shit is just ePiC TrOLLiNg by the adolescents in charge of the US government to piss off Canadians and American progressives. I hope I’m not wrong, but I do find comfort in the fact that Canada isn’t a brown/poor people country. We seem to prefer attacking those instead. I don’t know about Greenland, though. I don’t think any of us understand that shit.
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Hi friend, and I mean that sincerely, I’m truly sorry that you weren’t able to get into Canada. And I hear you about the attitudes towards Indians… It’s abhorrent and a product of the anti-immigrant rhetoric that the right wing has imported from the US.
One of my best friends immigrated from India a couple of decades ago. He married a childhood friend and they slowly built a life together, now own 60 acres and have two kids. Hearing his story made me proud of this country, and I believe we are hurting ourselves by letting partisan reactionaries set the message on immigration. My family on my mother’s side immigrated from Eastern Europe after WW2. I’m first generation, so I understand what immigrant families go though, and especially the work ethic that the majority of them embody.
I hope you do not give up, and please, please stay safe. I react strongly to the increasing American threat, but it’s easy to forget there are people like you who never wanted any of this. I hope you can join us soon.
Why do you guys blame your own right wing politicians on the US? You voted them in, right?
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That’s exactly what the people being deported from the US are feeling.
The fuck does that have to do with an emigrant that hasn’t lived here in 10 years?
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You’ve missed my entire point. I’ll be choosing to take The Long Sleep if the US invades. Our country would never be normal again.
Please forgive my hard edged tone, it was too much and I own it. Let’s put politics aside. I know we’re talking about a hypothetical, but regardless, what you’re saying sounds like despair. Please don’t make a permanent decision based on the unknown right now, and reach out to someone if you need to talk.
I get why it feels like “nothing would ever be normal again.” That fear makes sense. But you seem to be saying there are no options, and I don’t think that’s true. People do survive huge disruptions and later rebuild a life that’s meaningful again; sometimes they stay, sometimes they relocate.
You don’t need to be alone with your thoughts on this, and if you feel that way please reach out to someone or call 988 if you just feel like you need to talk.
