Thirsty Sword Lesbians is pretty based too
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Even though we usually talk about it in a derogatory way, virtue signaling is not inherently bad. A shirt that says “trans rights are human rights” is virtue signaling, but the performance is in itself beneficial to society, even if the wearer is only doing it to feel trendy and special.
What they accomplished with this is hostility to bigots who might otherwise have felt welcome.
I don’t think they’re actually accomplishing any of those things. I’d argue a shirt is a demonstration IRL of support, which can raise awareness or normalize support for a cause (although not super effectively). Things like this make the “bigots” you are pwning just write this off as the usual DEI bullshit that nobody likes while also turning off anyone without your EXACT strain of identitarian politics, even if they don’t actually oppose any specific sentiment in the statement. It is literally counterproductive because it makes you (and your cause) look angry and mean and like the bully.
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I don’t think they’re actually accomplishing any of those things. I’d argue a shirt is a demonstration IRL of support, which can raise awareness or normalize support for a cause (although not super effectively). Things like this make the “bigots” you are pwning just write this off as the usual DEI bullshit that nobody likes while also turning off anyone without your EXACT strain of identitarian politics, even if they don’t actually oppose any specific sentiment in the statement. It is literally counterproductive because it makes you (and your cause) look angry and mean and like the bully.
Who is it being mean towards or bullying? Who is it angry at?
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Who is it being mean towards or bullying? Who is it angry at?
People looking at the webpage this is on?
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It’s your responsibility to learn, not their responsibility to teach.
also, found this from a tumblr post
My problem with “it’s not my job to educate you!” is that if you’re an activist then yes, it is your job, that’s part of what activism is. If you call yourself an activist but in the next breath refuse to offer education to those who are able to listen, your activism is performative/disingenuous at best and actively harmful at worst. Telling people to “google it” it not helpful when google has become increasingly unusable and bogged down with advertisements and unusable results - not to mention, not everyone can be expected to tell the difference between accurate sources and, say, dogwhistle-y propaganda messages, especially if they are new to leftism. You could be doing more to push them towards the right than to help them understand leftism, all because of “purity politics” or clique behaviors or superiority complexes or whatever it is that’s causing all these people to behave this way.
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Exactly. White collar, upwardly mobile women (usually white) trying to accrue social credit for themselves to preen for other similarly minded women with no real desire to make anything materially better for anyone else.
Can’t count the number of times I’ve had “allies” try to call me out for speaking about my own experience. Identity politics is a cancer.
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also, found this from a tumblr post
My problem with “it’s not my job to educate you!” is that if you’re an activist then yes, it is your job, that’s part of what activism is. If you call yourself an activist but in the next breath refuse to offer education to those who are able to listen, your activism is performative/disingenuous at best and actively harmful at worst. Telling people to “google it” it not helpful when google has become increasingly unusable and bogged down with advertisements and unusable results - not to mention, not everyone can be expected to tell the difference between accurate sources and, say, dogwhistle-y propaganda messages, especially if they are new to leftism. You could be doing more to push them towards the right than to help them understand leftism, all because of “purity politics” or clique behaviors or superiority complexes or whatever it is that’s causing all these people to behave this way.
Not everyone is an activist though. And even those that are, they need down time sometimes. I get it’s tough for those on the spectrum to understand, but in this context, let people at the table just play the fucking game.
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Is asking okay though ?
Ask politely, show a genuine interest, and don’t try to undermine what they say. Also read the room if it’s going into a topic that someone doesn’t feel comfortable talking about and be ready to learn another day!
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The meme is making the effort required to be educated or a fascist equivalent when they are not.
Being a fascist is intellectually easy.
Got a problem? Blame migrants Can’t get ahead? Blame Jews Can’t afford a house? Black people got too uppity
It’s a one trick pony, all problems are caused by someone else and I’m perfect.
Understanding the systemic reasons why women still aren’t paid the same as men or why a disproportionate amount of African Americans are incarcerated is hard and requires a lot of foundational groundwork to overcome the huge capitalist propaganda machine.
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also, found this from a tumblr post
My problem with “it’s not my job to educate you!” is that if you’re an activist then yes, it is your job, that’s part of what activism is. If you call yourself an activist but in the next breath refuse to offer education to those who are able to listen, your activism is performative/disingenuous at best and actively harmful at worst. Telling people to “google it” it not helpful when google has become increasingly unusable and bogged down with advertisements and unusable results - not to mention, not everyone can be expected to tell the difference between accurate sources and, say, dogwhistle-y propaganda messages, especially if they are new to leftism. You could be doing more to push them towards the right than to help them understand leftism, all because of “purity politics” or clique behaviors or superiority complexes or whatever it is that’s causing all these people to behave this way.
Yeah I’m not reading all that. Google it.
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We’re talking about a fucking game, not an undergraduate ethics class.
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I would play this despite not respecting fat people

Not with me you fucking won’t.
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Inspired by this post about Vampire The Masquerade
You are a little too comfortable telling people how to talk. I’m seeing that a lot these days.
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Ask politely, show a genuine interest, and don’t try to undermine what they say. Also read the room if it’s going into a topic that someone doesn’t feel comfortable talking about and be ready to learn another day!
Thanks for the honest answer !
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You are a little too comfortable telling people how to talk. I’m seeing that a lot these days.
When we tell people not to murder, we are telling them how to act. When we tell people not to be racist, we are telling people how to talk. Telling people not to do things is a normal thing to do. The content of what is being told is the important part.
Is there a particular part of the op that you find friction with?
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The meme is making the effort required to be educated or a fascist equivalent when they are not.
Being a fascist is intellectually easy.
Got a problem? Blame migrants Can’t get ahead? Blame Jews Can’t afford a house? Black people got too uppity
It’s a one trick pony, all problems are caused by someone else and I’m perfect.
Understanding the systemic reasons why women still aren’t paid the same as men or why a disproportionate amount of African Americans are incarcerated is hard and requires a lot of foundational groundwork to overcome the huge capitalist propaganda machine.
you’re kind of saying that this school of thought isn’t for everyone?
when, really, everyone would benefit from it.
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Inspired by this post about Vampire The Masquerade
Even though I do not have a problem with treating the things mentioned with respect, something about this text irritates me, but I can’t put my finger on it. Which feels really weird because I don’t like the feeling of something being off even though I can’t spot anything that actually bothers me.
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Inspired by this post about Vampire The Masquerade
Out of couriosity: I have never played the game, so… is the game actually unplayable if you decide to be intolerant against one or more of these? (As in: Is the tolerance and representation part of the core mechanics or is this just meant as a statement?)
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Out of couriosity: I have never played the game, so… is the game actually unplayable if you decide to be intolerant against one or more of these? (As in: Is the tolerance and representation part of the core mechanics or is this just meant as a statement?)
Everything from the rules of the game to the GM guide to the pre written game settings are written with the assumption that players and the gm will be respectful and kind, but no you could absolutely try to play the game about connection-seeking queers fighting oppression and finding family as a bigot
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It’s not their responsibility to teach but it’s also not my responsibility to keep abreast of all social developments. It’s inappropriate to gatekeep due to someone’s naive ignorance.
Picture this. Sitting at a table game and someone drops a term or phrase that I don’t recognise. Am I going to run to the toilet and google that term? Or am I just gonna say 'yo, what’s that mean?"
There’s a world of difference between hearing a term you’re not familiar with and saying something like, “I’ve never heard that before, would you mind telling me what it means?” and learning about someone’s marginalization and asking them a bunch of questions about it. I’m guessing this rule is targeting the latter.
Personally, if I meet someone who is marginalized, I avoid talking about their marginalization unless they bring it up and are clearly interested in talking about it. If they don’t want to be defined by it or be asked a bunch of questions about it, then that’s their right.
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There’s a world of difference between hearing a term you’re not familiar with and saying something like, “I’ve never heard that before, would you mind telling me what it means?” and learning about someone’s marginalization and asking them a bunch of questions about it. I’m guessing this rule is targeting the latter.
Personally, if I meet someone who is marginalized, I avoid talking about their marginalization unless they bring it up and are clearly interested in talking about it. If they don’t want to be defined by it or be asked a bunch of questions about it, then that’s their right.
How on earth did you stumble across a comment that is 5 days old?
No objection with your framing. In fact, I tend to agree. My disagreement was the narrow / binary lens applied by the previous commentor. Their perspective (‘your responsibility to learn’) is/was an extremely dismissive approach.
