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When will America realize that this is not a joke. They'll be laughing right up to the goosestepping.

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  • S shaggyb@lemmy.world

    You don’t get it.

    The people posting shit like that WANT TO KILL.

    They are bloodthirsty. They are warmongers. They want a bodycount.

    There’s nothing more to realize about the joke because it’s not a joke.

    America is ruled by murderers.

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    frenchgeek@lemmy.ml
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    They can’t handle a rifle due to medical reasons and their moms told them to be back by dinner.

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      eldritchfeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Except that the US government and corporations have spent the years since convincing the people that there’s a right way to protest, and that it’s by holding signs on a street corner - preferably out of view. This is why MLK was seen as a violent thug during the Civil Rights Movement and is seen as a hero today. Their struggle has been whitewashed to remove what actually happened and turned into an example of changing things the “right way” - by gently asking your oppressors to stop oppressing you. The US is one of the most propagandized populations on the planet. Our children pledge their undying loyalty every morning to the flag that hangs in every classroom. The only other countries on Earth to have done that are North Korea and the Hitler’s Youth program in Nazi Germany.

      They’ve also gutted any form of support network for the same reason. The US populace is staunchly anti-union because companies have convinced us that worker’s rights are bad. They’ve made everybody dependent on keeping their job to keep food on the table and a roof over their head, of course, but also to see a doctor if you have a fever. And God forbid it’s anything worse than that. It’s bread and circuses with a dash of the Sword of Damocles.

      So not only do we have to convince people to risk their lives to fight a fascist regime and their police force that is armed as well as many countries military, we have to convince the pearl clutchers that snarky taglines on signs aren’t going to solve things, and reconstruct support networks that haven’t existed for over half a century, and prevent the 45% of the population who support the fascists from voluntarily drafting themselves to root out any resistance, if not start shooting them in the streets. The FBI spends half their time putting down white supremacist militias. All they’d have to do is stop doing that and let the Trump regime do the rest by tweeting from the toilet at 3am. Those most likely to take up arms against the system are the same people who support the current system.

      The average person isn’t brave enough to risk their life. If they were, we’d see Canadians coming down to burn down the White House again. We’d see Mexicans crossing the southern border. We’d see aid networks forming from other countries to provide support for anybody willing to resist. But we don’t and we won’t. And I don’t mean that in a “other countries should solve American problems” way, but that people in other countries are just as likely to say, “Not my fight, not my problem. Somebody else should deal with it” as Americans are. It’s human nature. If it wasn’t, we’d see more people taking out healthcare CEOs. More people would’ve supported the IRA. We’d have far more examples instead of Blair Mountain and the Haymarket Affair.

      It’s easy for the armchair generals of the world to say that Americans should just arm themselves and go to war against the largest military on the planet when it isn’t their necks on the line.

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      • Z zephorah@discuss.online

        In the medical industry there is a unit called the ICU, the Intensive Care Unit. This is where the ventilators live. A common side remark made by staff, depending on the day, the type of patients there, is that they are vegetable gardeners. Crude, but oftentimes accurate.

        90 year old grandmas whose time has come, who have died, but the families are not ready to let go. So, grandma now lays in ICU, with broken ribs from the CPR that brought her back, unconscious, muscles atrophying and body deconditioning to anything but a bed. Brain dead people who are “fighters” who are “gonna pull through”. And so on. Passive bodies, carefully tended and watered in perpetuity, until the ethics committee gets involved or the family runs out of money after insurance runs out. We have this technology.

        The question here is, even if Donald Trump dies, will he be allowed to officially die? Or will he become an orange flower in an ICU vegetable garden, tended and watered in perpetuity?

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        fluke@feddit.uk
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        It occurs to me that none of his brain-dead followers will believe that it’s him unless they keep spray tanning a face onto the aforementioned vegetable.

        They’d sooner believe it’s an AI fake and the “real” one has been abducted by Antifa, Greenland, Canada, or all of the above.

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          pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Fucking shoot me then

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          • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

            Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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            humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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            Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

            US interest in Greenland has 0 to do with resources (which are extremely expensive to develop and far away from markets) and everything to do with replacing NATO military bases with US bases in order to directly threaten Europe more effectively.

            The collective cowardice of the colonies divided by US attacks on their economies, and coercive miltiary equipment tribute demands, and cheerleading for Venezuela takeover, and other recent blatant election interference in Latin America (Bolivia, Honduras, Argentina, Brazil) means there are no lines in the sand. No one will come to Greenland or Canada’s defense, because the cowardice that responds to US aggression against its colonies is to devote tributes in order to fight Russia alone.

            There are CIA allegiants on lemmy who setup a US invasion of Greenland as a US ploy to donate all of its resources to Russia, which means just more increased Russophobia as a response and more devotion to the US to help with Napoleonic fantasies on fighting Russia.

            The line in the sand on Canada’s/Europe’s military cooperation with the US should have been drawn at tariffs. For Canada, fentanyl excuse for tariffs is accepting a categorical lie, just as the pretext for kidnapping Maduro.

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              procapra@lemmy.ml
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              Vladimir Liberal

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              • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

                Preferably we’d get that in writing, and with a similar promise from Denmark.

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                hugenerd@lemmy.ca
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                And do what? Send the First Mounted Pellet Rifle brigade down there?

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                • KSP AtlasK KSP Atlas

                  Nah, people will say he was justified in it and it was the best way to get “woke liberals” out of government or whatever

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                  Cethin
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                  Some. I doubt most will.

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                    AbeilleVegane
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                    In this hypothetical scenario, maybe you could just renounce your citizenship (and stop paying taxes to the US).

                    In all cases, retaliation against a fascist regime will destroy lives, but it’s generally the better option. I mean people suggest to stop trading with the US or crash their economy, this is not victimless either.

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                      Cethin
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                      It needs to happen regardless, but no, we are worse off than they were. There are a lot more ways to track people, which is one major negative. Back then there weren’t a system designed to prevent and punish striking. Now there is. If it ends up happening at the scale that’s needed to make a difference then there will be fights against private militias and the government again.

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                      • F frenchgeek@lemmy.ml

                        They can’t handle a rifle due to medical reasons and their moms told them to be back by dinner.

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                        shaggyb@lemmy.world
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                        I don’t think the average republican is capable in a fight, but I do think they fantasize about ethnic cleansing.

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                        • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world

                          Miller is the ghoul behind a lot of the worst of what the government is doing. Trump is bad, but he’s an idiot. Miller knows what he’s doing and has a plan.

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                          rubberelectrons@lemmy.world
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                          Will nobody rid this poor planet of Stephen Miller?

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                          • C chiliedogg@lemmy.world

                            Personality cults have trouble transitioning to a new leader. North Morea did it, but otherwise it doesn’t really happen often. One aneurysm may be all we need.

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                            vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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                            I didnt know that Morea was under a cult of personality, though I guess that did apply to some of the Marble Emperor’s in Constantinople with some of the remnants of the Imperial Cult.

                            Yes I know you meant the Norks.

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                            • H humanspiral@lemmy.ca

                              Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

                              US interest in Greenland has 0 to do with resources (which are extremely expensive to develop and far away from markets) and everything to do with replacing NATO military bases with US bases in order to directly threaten Europe more effectively.

                              The collective cowardice of the colonies divided by US attacks on their economies, and coercive miltiary equipment tribute demands, and cheerleading for Venezuela takeover, and other recent blatant election interference in Latin America (Bolivia, Honduras, Argentina, Brazil) means there are no lines in the sand. No one will come to Greenland or Canada’s defense, because the cowardice that responds to US aggression against its colonies is to devote tributes in order to fight Russia alone.

                              There are CIA allegiants on lemmy who setup a US invasion of Greenland as a US ploy to donate all of its resources to Russia, which means just more increased Russophobia as a response and more devotion to the US to help with Napoleonic fantasies on fighting Russia.

                              The line in the sand on Canada’s/Europe’s military cooperation with the US should have been drawn at tariffs. For Canada, fentanyl excuse for tariffs is accepting a categorical lie, just as the pretext for kidnapping Maduro.

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                              raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca
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                              Hey bud I’ve gone back over our past correspondence, and I’m now feeling less hostile. I feel as if you and I are on the same team but perhaps with a different view of what needs to be done. Is this accurate? Is it worth having a good faith dialogue?

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                              • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

                                Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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                                rarsamx@lemmy.ca
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                                Venezuela should have been the line. Want to make it Greenland? So, they can take mexico, Cuba?

                                Each inch they take is too much. They have proven that they are following the Fascist guidebook.

                                Venezuela is the first step. Same as Hitler with Poland.

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                                • F frenchgeek@lemmy.ml

                                  They can’t handle a rifle due to medical reasons and their moms told them to be back by dinner.

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                                  rarsamx@lemmy.ca
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                                  And you really think they are the ones fighting?

                                  They remove social services and the only out for poor people is the army.

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                                  • R rarsamx@lemmy.ca

                                    Venezuela should have been the line. Want to make it Greenland? So, they can take mexico, Cuba?

                                    Each inch they take is too much. They have proven that they are following the Fascist guidebook.

                                    Venezuela is the first step. Same as Hitler with Poland.

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                                    raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca
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                                    #98

                                    Greenland is arguably under NATO protection. Cuba is not, and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba, I’m not going to get involved with that bullshit.

                                    As for Mexico, I’m saddened by the lack of an informal alliance between the two countries. As much as I wish it weren’t so, I’ve not seen any indication from Mexico that they would stand with us. An invasion of Mexico would be an enormous step that would justify ramping up sanctioning behavior, but for me, as a Canadian, the line in the sand should be Greenland. Meaning if Greenland is ever directly attacked, we are in a war stance. We cut off everything to the US, sell all the Tbonds, nationalize all strategic resources (oil, media, telecom, water, hydro, food, potash, critical minerals), seize assists and nationalize all patents. I would recommend we also look for any alliance with China.

                                    THAT’S what I mean by a line in the sand. We cut them off and dig in.

                                    Edit… Hey if you disagree tell me why, stand up for yourself don’t just downvote and move on.

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                                    • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR remembertheapollo_@lemmy.world

                                      Miller is the ghoul behind a lot of the worst of what the government is doing. Trump is bad, but he’s an idiot. Miller knows what he’s doing and has a plan.

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                                      minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world
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                                      Miller is this administration’s Himmler.

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                                      • M mbech@feddit.dk

                                        Software can be made literally anywhere, and computer parts are made in China and other SE Asian countries anyway.

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                                        ranzispa@mander.xyz
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                                        That is not the current situation.

                                        The comment above did not say let’s focus the next 10 years to build a software stack that does not depend on US software. It said let’s immediately stop importing stuff from the US. That is not something you can in a moment substitute without massive disruption.

                                        Computer parts are made in China and Taiwan mostly, sure. But: AMD is American, intel is American, Nvidia is American. Go build a computer without using parts coming from one of these companies.

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                                        • R raskolnikovsaxe@lemmy.ca

                                          Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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                                          bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net
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                                          This isn’t going to happen as there isn’t a contingent of deeply evil Greenlander exiles in South Florida running the US from Mar-a-Lago, unlike Cuba and Venezuela, whose rightfully exiled upper class now rule what of our foreign policy the Israelis don’t.

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