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  • AnneHA AnneH

    @Daojoan Surely many countries must have laws against CSAM? They need to ban all X products & "services".

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    @annehargreaves @Daojoan

    sure they have laws but has any LEO in ANY nation arrested Musk for creating & sharing these images? no, & they won't because, at the end of the day, no gov't on this Earth really thinks women & children are equal humans worthy of defending

    thus bullying women / girls out of public life is a consequence-free crime, all reward, no risk

    we have all seen that actual sexual trafficking is fine w/ gov't if the pimp is rich enough

    #Epstein #ReleaseEverything

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    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

      Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

      Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

      I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

      I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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      @Daojoan a lot

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      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

        Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

        Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

        I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

        I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

        WCOW #TheArchersW This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Daojoan Wankers to a man.

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        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

          Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

          Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

          I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

          I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

          Court Cantrell prefers not toC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Daojoan My much longer twenty-three: they have always been misogynists and pedophiles, and now our government has given them free rein to do whatever the hell they want.

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          • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

            RE: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/115865514665481624

            @peter_slwk Not so silent: https://mastodon.online/@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu/115865514632404837 (watch especially the video)

            @Daojoan

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            @NatureMC @peter_slwk @Daojoan Yackety yack. They wouldn’t even call it Child Sexual Abuse Material, they went with “spicy”. Spokespeople can take a seat until they are announcing legal action enforcing the law. 🫩

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            • CrazyDogLadySezPEACEH CrazyDogLadySezPEACE

              @NatureMC @peter_slwk @Daojoan Yackety yack. They wouldn’t even call it Child Sexual Abuse Material, they went with “spicy”. Spokespeople can take a seat until they are announcing legal action enforcing the law. 🫩

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              #23

              @Heartofcoyote Watch the video before yackety-yacking me (spicy mode was a quote, they forgot the " " in the post). It is a post about the work to enforce the law!

              Some European countries also check for a possible ban of X. What does your country do?

              @peter_slwk @Daojoan

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              • Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊T Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

                @Daojoan

                Perhaps my favourite 'Musk and Free Speech' moment, the one to be shared with the class, is when he sought to legally compel advertisers to buy time on his garbage fire social media app, after it transpired that advertisers don't like their ads being associated with Nazis.

                And advertising is the most banal, empty, facile form of speech, but by compelling groups to provide representation on his platform it forever showed that free speech, actually free, is not something Musk will ever support.

                Which makes his supporters trying to claim CSAM as a first amendment thing... just ring a little more hollow. (Also? Ew.)

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                @theogrin @Daojoan

                Elon seems to go with a very unique definition of free speech: I do whatever I fucking feel like

                High status males like himself should rule the world. And he thinks very highly of his status.

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                • Court Cantrell prefers not toC Court Cantrell prefers not to

                  @Daojoan My much longer twenty-three: they have always been misogynists and pedophiles, and now our government has given them free rein to do whatever the hell they want.

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                  @courtcan @Daojoan

                  They run the government.

                  I don’t call it epstein nation for nothing. He was plumbing to these people, and there are lots more of them doing exactly what he did right now. Of the files that have been released, made that clear mentioning 10 co-conspirators.

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                  • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                    @Heartofcoyote Watch the video before yackety-yacking me (spicy mode was a quote, they forgot the " " in the post). It is a post about the work to enforce the law!

                    Some European countries also check for a possible ban of X. What does your country do?

                    @peter_slwk @Daojoan

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                    @NatureMC @peter_slwk @Daojoan Vote for fascists apparently. I just want to see laws enforced appropriately and without violence. 😕🫩

                    And to be clear, the yackety-yack was directed at the EU post not you.

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                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                      Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                      Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                      I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                      I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                      @Daojoan some weird kind of ”masculinity” as strategy.

                      Or perhaps it’s simply sadism. 🤷‍♂️

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                      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                        Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                        Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                        I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                        I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                        @Daojoan some thoughts on "what the fuck is wrong with these assholes."

                        First, to them it's abstract and personal. Free speech is for them, not you. Free speech is their right not to be affected by anything, not others. They simply don't care, and probably enjoy the controversy.

                        Secondly, let's be honest, when people are bang alongside a CSAM engine we know who they are and WHAT they are.

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                        • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                          @courtcan @Daojoan

                          They run the government.

                          I don’t call it epstein nation for nothing. He was plumbing to these people, and there are lots more of them doing exactly what he did right now. Of the files that have been released, made that clear mentioning 10 co-conspirators.

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                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @courtcan @Daojoan

                          Basically the QAnoners elected the pedophile cabal they claimed to be fighting then went silent. When they weren't covering it up.

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                          • StevenSavage (he/him)S StevenSavage (he/him)

                            @GhostOnTheHalfShell @courtcan @Daojoan

                            Basically the QAnoners elected the pedophile cabal they claimed to be fighting then went silent. When they weren't covering it up.

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                            @StevenSavage @courtcan @Daojoan

                            Which is why I say they pulled the trigger. They pulled the trigger on Renee Good. And they are collaborators of Jeffrey Epstein.

                            Found them with the accusation and make them defend themselves. There’s no point letting this slide out of ingrained politeness.

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                            • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                              Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                              Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                              I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                              I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                              @Daojoan something something Charlie Kirk

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                              • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                                Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                                I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                                I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                                @Daojoan
                                I really dig you voice, fwiw.
                                merci beaucoups for being a mensch

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                                • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                  Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                                  Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                                  I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                                  I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                                  @Daojoan lack of consequences

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                                  • Peter HP Peter H

                                    @Daojoan In an EU where policy makers scream they want to stop CSAM and so they want backdoors on phones and scanning tools to detect what you are sending in your chats, it's good to know we can always move to Twitter / X to message eachother because there's no move whatsoever to stop this.

                                    Yes there has been a bit of news 5 days ago, but it remains silent now.

                                    They're scared of a rich man.

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                                    @peter_slwk @Daojoan for E2E encrypted chat from a non-shit platform, Signal. For reasonably usable IM experience if your ethics are flexible, Telegram. If you're fully in favour of your own private space, Matrix. Alternatively, many people have moved to Bsky or even Threads. X in its current state should not be considered an acceptable platform to migrate to.

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                                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                      Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                                      Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                                      I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                                      I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                                      @Daojoan @lisamelton Concise!

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                                      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                        Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                                        Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                                        I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                                        I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                                        @Daojoan @garthderby @Viss

                                        WRT: What the fuck is wrong with these people?

                                        Sociopathy. The total lack of restraints only intergenerational affluence can buy.

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                                        • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                          @StevenSavage @courtcan @Daojoan

                                          Which is why I say they pulled the trigger. They pulled the trigger on Renee Good. And they are collaborators of Jeffrey Epstein.

                                          Found them with the accusation and make them defend themselves. There’s no point letting this slide out of ingrained politeness.

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                                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @StevenSavage @Daojoan I am fucking sick of being polite about any of this.

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