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  • Peter HP Peter H

    @Daojoan In an EU where policy makers scream they want to stop CSAM and so they want backdoors on phones and scanning tools to detect what you are sending in your chats, it's good to know we can always move to Twitter / X to message eachother because there's no move whatsoever to stop this.

    Yes there has been a bit of news 5 days ago, but it remains silent now.

    They're scared of a rich man.

    Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
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    Petra van Cronenburg
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    #11

    RE: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/115865514665481624

    @peter_slwk Not so silent: https://mastodon.online/@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu/115865514632404837 (watch especially the video)

    @Daojoan

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    • arclightA arclight

      @theogrin @Daojoan <Adjusts fedora> "It's ephebophilia, actually..."

      Every last one of those creepy bastards can be thrown in the sea for introducing me to that word.

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      #12

      @arclight TIL about Chronophilia ... but isn't ephebo a bit narrow? Like excluding hebephilia(9-14) for instance.

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      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

        Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

        Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

        I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

        I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

        TinkererT This user is from outside of this forum
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        Tinkerer
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        #13

        @Daojoan They are fascists. And even after their "divorce" or end of bromance... They are still the same. The freedom of speech thing was BS for the masses.

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        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

          Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

          Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

          I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

          I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

          D This user is from outside of this forum
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          Ethin Probst
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          #14

          @Daojoan There's a reason CSAM is illegal. Freedom of speech != the right to harm others

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          • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

            Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

            Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

            I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

            I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

            atlovatoA This user is from outside of this forum
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            atlovato
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            #15

            @Daojoan - Thank You, Thank You,Thank You 💯

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            • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

              Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

              Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

              I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

              I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

              AnneHA This user is from outside of this forum
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              AnneH
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              #16

              @Daojoan Surely many countries must have laws against CSAM? They need to ban all X products & "services".

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              • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

                NiniN This user is from outside of this forum
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                Nini
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                #17

                @Daojoan The cabal of high-wealth and high-power pederasts allow for this, same shit with the Epstein files.

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                • AnneHA AnneH

                  @Daojoan Surely many countries must have laws against CSAM? They need to ban all X products & "services".

                  peachfrontP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  peachfront
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                  #18

                  @annehargreaves @Daojoan

                  sure they have laws but has any LEO in ANY nation arrested Musk for creating & sharing these images? no, & they won't because, at the end of the day, no gov't on this Earth really thinks women & children are equal humans worthy of defending

                  thus bullying women / girls out of public life is a consequence-free crime, all reward, no risk

                  we have all seen that actual sexual trafficking is fine w/ gov't if the pimp is rich enough

                  #Epstein #ReleaseEverything

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                  • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                    Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                    Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                    I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                    I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                    Ox1de
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                    #19

                    @Daojoan a lot

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                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                      Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                      Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                      I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                      I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

                      WCOW #TheArchersW This user is from outside of this forum
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                      WCOW #TheArchers
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                      @Daojoan Wankers to a man.

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                      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                        Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                        Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                        I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                        I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

                        Court Cantrell prefers not toC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Court Cantrell prefers not to
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                        #21

                        @Daojoan My much longer twenty-three: they have always been misogynists and pedophiles, and now our government has given them free rein to do whatever the hell they want.

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                        • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                          RE: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/115865514665481624

                          @peter_slwk Not so silent: https://mastodon.online/@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu/115865514632404837 (watch especially the video)

                          @Daojoan

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                          @NatureMC @peter_slwk @Daojoan Yackety yack. They wouldn’t even call it Child Sexual Abuse Material, they went with “spicy”. Spokespeople can take a seat until they are announcing legal action enforcing the law. 🫩

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                          • CrazyDogLadySezPEACEH CrazyDogLadySezPEACE

                            @NatureMC @peter_slwk @Daojoan Yackety yack. They wouldn’t even call it Child Sexual Abuse Material, they went with “spicy”. Spokespeople can take a seat until they are announcing legal action enforcing the law. 🫩

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                            Petra van Cronenburg
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                            @Heartofcoyote Watch the video before yackety-yacking me (spicy mode was a quote, they forgot the " " in the post). It is a post about the work to enforce the law!

                            Some European countries also check for a possible ban of X. What does your country do?

                            @peter_slwk @Daojoan

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                            • Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊T Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

                              @Daojoan

                              Perhaps my favourite 'Musk and Free Speech' moment, the one to be shared with the class, is when he sought to legally compel advertisers to buy time on his garbage fire social media app, after it transpired that advertisers don't like their ads being associated with Nazis.

                              And advertising is the most banal, empty, facile form of speech, but by compelling groups to provide representation on his platform it forever showed that free speech, actually free, is not something Musk will ever support.

                              Which makes his supporters trying to claim CSAM as a first amendment thing... just ring a little more hollow. (Also? Ew.)

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                              @theogrin @Daojoan

                              Elon seems to go with a very unique definition of free speech: I do whatever I fucking feel like

                              High status males like himself should rule the world. And he thinks very highly of his status.

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                              • Court Cantrell prefers not toC Court Cantrell prefers not to

                                @Daojoan My much longer twenty-three: they have always been misogynists and pedophiles, and now our government has given them free rein to do whatever the hell they want.

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                                @courtcan @Daojoan

                                They run the government.

                                I don’t call it epstein nation for nothing. He was plumbing to these people, and there are lots more of them doing exactly what he did right now. Of the files that have been released, made that clear mentioning 10 co-conspirators.

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                                • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                                  @Heartofcoyote Watch the video before yackety-yacking me (spicy mode was a quote, they forgot the " " in the post). It is a post about the work to enforce the law!

                                  Some European countries also check for a possible ban of X. What does your country do?

                                  @peter_slwk @Daojoan

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                                  @NatureMC @peter_slwk @Daojoan Vote for fascists apparently. I just want to see laws enforced appropriately and without violence. 😕🫩

                                  And to be clear, the yackety-yack was directed at the EU post not you.

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                                  • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                    Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                                    Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                                    I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                                    I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

                                    Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Daojoan some weird kind of ”masculinity” as strategy.

                                    Or perhaps it’s simply sadism. 🤷‍♂️

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                                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                      Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                                      Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                                      I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                                      I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

                                      StevenSavage (he/him)S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #28

                                      @Daojoan some thoughts on "what the fuck is wrong with these assholes."

                                      First, to them it's abstract and personal. Free speech is for them, not you. Free speech is their right not to be affected by anything, not others. They simply don't care, and probably enjoy the controversy.

                                      Secondly, let's be honest, when people are bang alongside a CSAM engine we know who they are and WHAT they are.

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                                      • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                        @courtcan @Daojoan

                                        They run the government.

                                        I don’t call it epstein nation for nothing. He was plumbing to these people, and there are lots more of them doing exactly what he did right now. Of the files that have been released, made that clear mentioning 10 co-conspirators.

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                                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @courtcan @Daojoan

                                        Basically the QAnoners elected the pedophile cabal they claimed to be fighting then went silent. When they weren't covering it up.

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                                        • StevenSavage (he/him)S StevenSavage (he/him)

                                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @courtcan @Daojoan

                                          Basically the QAnoners elected the pedophile cabal they claimed to be fighting then went silent. When they weren't covering it up.

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                                          @StevenSavage @courtcan @Daojoan

                                          Which is why I say they pulled the trigger. They pulled the trigger on Renee Good. And they are collaborators of Jeffrey Epstein.

                                          Found them with the accusation and make them defend themselves. There’s no point letting this slide out of ingrained politeness.

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