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  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

    @eq "don't let the idiots get you" - do you see how that puts it on me?

    I trust you mean well, but respectfully: no. The correct response is "men should fight back when they see this amongst themselves."

    It isn't my responsibility to "not let them get me down." It's men who need to step up and fight this battle.

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    @vkc
    I hear you

    @eq

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    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

      Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

      Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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      #41

      @vkc ugh. I saw your earlier post and I'm so sorry ๐Ÿซ‚

      A *lot* of (mostly) guys need to learn the difference between appropriate, consensual flirting, and sexual harassment.

      SemitonesS ๐Ÿ…ฐ๐Ÿ…ป๐Ÿ…ธ๐Ÿ…ฒ๐Ÿ…ด  (๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿฆ„)A ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฎ  Byrnensorg๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆB AprazethA 4 Replies Last reply
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      • JustBobB JustBob

        @vkc

        I'd report and block them... Dont censor yourself because of bad users. Just my opinion.

        That is the power we have taken back by being on the Fediverse ๐Ÿ˜€

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        @bob I always report and block. My problem is I need the collective *you* to report and block. And more.

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        • KristyE Kristy

          @vkc women will just stay on corporate social media even more because at least the user base there isn't so heavily skewed white male. I'd only been posting regularly for about a week here and got tone policed by some dude who said he was muting me for 30 days because I wasn't cheery enough. I extended his 30 days with a block. I've been in tech for over 25 years and I don't play.

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          @vkc @effariwhy the social media equivalent of some dickhead shouting CHEER UP LOVE from a passing car๐Ÿคฃ it's so fucking sad it's actually comical.

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          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

            Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

            Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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            @vkc@linuxmom.net I hope you're fine. Harassers are such awful people. I hope they don't do that to you ever again, and that admins in our instances do their best to block them

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            • AlexA Alex

              @vkc no it is not and quite frankly your response is quite obnoxious. If we can't talk about problems collectively on this shithole platform and only talk about one thing at a time than it becomes loose islands among the rest of the sewage, but fine whatever. Thank you for proving my point about how hostile this place is becoming with all you morons whining, but yet do this type of shit. Anyways, enjoy the block. I generally don't care.

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              @alex02 @vkc Just chiming into say im blocking you too.

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                @vkc ugh. I saw your earlier post and I'm so sorry ๐Ÿซ‚

                A *lot* of (mostly) guys need to learn the difference between appropriate, consensual flirting, and sexual harassment.

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                @alice I think a lot of guys could also benefit from reading your "sucker punch" post about open registration and moderation. It def opened my eyes to how others are treated on here and elsewhere...

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                Why reactive moderation isn't going to cut it, aka, "The Sucker-punch Problem". Imagine you invite your friendโ€”let's call him Markโ€”to a club with you. It's open-door, which is cool, because you like when a lot of folx show up. Sure, it might get a little rowdy, but they have a bouncer, and you've never seen things getting out of hand. So, you're busy dancing when a new guy walks in wearing a "I Hate Mark" shirt and promptly sucker-punches Mark. You didn't see it happen, but Mark is upset and tells the bouncer, who kicks the guy out. A few minutes later, the same guy walks back in and sucker-punches Mark again. Same result. Some people in the club say they'll tell the bouncer if they see him come in again. Mark wants to leave, but you tell him it's not that badโ€”after all, you've never been punched, and you didn't see Mark get punched, so maybe he's just being sensitive. A different guy walks in wearing a "I Plan On Punching Mark" shirt. No one tells the bouncer, because they've never seen *this* guy punch Mark. He sucker-punches Mark. At this point, Mark is pissed and yelling about being punched. The club members talk about putting up a "No Punching Mark" sign, but the owner is worried it'll hurt his club's growth. Another Mark in the club proposes they turn away anyone wearing an anti-Mark shirt or espousing anti-Mark rhetoric at the door, but this gets shot down for the same reason as the sign ideaโ€”then someone sucker-punches him. By the end of the night, your friend Mark is beat to fuck and says he'll never come to this club again. In fact, he's going to tell anyone named Mark to stay clear of this place. The next time you go to the club, half the folx there are wearing "I Kill Marks" shirts, but there aren't any Marks there, so it doesn't come up. I've been sucker-punched every day, for the last three days in a row by some of the most vile hate-speech and imagery. The accounts are using open registration servers and signing up with variations on the username "heilhitler1488". I fully expect it'll continue as long as we have open registration servers. And no, username pattern blocking alone won't fix this, it'll help a little, but mostly it'll just make them wear a different shirt while they sucker-punch us. #OpenRegistrationHurts

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                • JustBobB JustBob

                  @vkc

                  I'd report and block them... Dont censor yourself because of bad users. Just my opinion.

                  That is the power we have taken back by being on the Fediverse ๐Ÿ˜€

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                  @bob

                  I think the "I" in that reply needs to be "you" and "me" for that to work.
                  If it is just the woman doing the moderation, then those guys just keep doing it, and it becomes "women's work".

                  @vkc

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                    @vkc ugh. I saw your earlier post and I'm so sorry ๐Ÿซ‚

                    A *lot* of (mostly) guys need to learn the difference between appropriate, consensual flirting, and sexual harassment.

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                    @vkc sadly this is an issue that'll only start to get better when guys call other guys out on this behaviorโ€”every time they see it.

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                      @vkc ugh. I saw your earlier post and I'm so sorry ๐Ÿซ‚

                      A *lot* of (mostly) guys need to learn the difference between appropriate, consensual flirting, and sexual harassment.

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                      @alice @vkc I think you are too generous in assuming the *lot* can learn anything at this stage, it's like teaching a hammer 'there are other things than nails you know'.

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                      • SemitonesS Semitones

                        @alice I think a lot of guys could also benefit from reading your "sucker punch" post about open registration and moderation. It def opened my eyes to how others are treated on here and elsewhere...

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                        Why reactive moderation isn't going to cut it, aka, "The Sucker-punch Problem". Imagine you invite your friendโ€”let's call him Markโ€”to a club with you. It's open-door, which is cool, because you like when a lot of folx show up. Sure, it might get a little rowdy, but they have a bouncer, and you've never seen things getting out of hand. So, you're busy dancing when a new guy walks in wearing a "I Hate Mark" shirt and promptly sucker-punches Mark. You didn't see it happen, but Mark is upset and tells the bouncer, who kicks the guy out. A few minutes later, the same guy walks back in and sucker-punches Mark again. Same result. Some people in the club say they'll tell the bouncer if they see him come in again. Mark wants to leave, but you tell him it's not that badโ€”after all, you've never been punched, and you didn't see Mark get punched, so maybe he's just being sensitive. A different guy walks in wearing a "I Plan On Punching Mark" shirt. No one tells the bouncer, because they've never seen *this* guy punch Mark. He sucker-punches Mark. At this point, Mark is pissed and yelling about being punched. The club members talk about putting up a "No Punching Mark" sign, but the owner is worried it'll hurt his club's growth. Another Mark in the club proposes they turn away anyone wearing an anti-Mark shirt or espousing anti-Mark rhetoric at the door, but this gets shot down for the same reason as the sign ideaโ€”then someone sucker-punches him. By the end of the night, your friend Mark is beat to fuck and says he'll never come to this club again. In fact, he's going to tell anyone named Mark to stay clear of this place. The next time you go to the club, half the folx there are wearing "I Kill Marks" shirts, but there aren't any Marks there, so it doesn't come up. I've been sucker-punched every day, for the last three days in a row by some of the most vile hate-speech and imagery. The accounts are using open registration servers and signing up with variations on the username "heilhitler1488". I fully expect it'll continue as long as we have open registration servers. And no, username pattern blocking alone won't fix this, it'll help a little, but mostly it'll just make them wear a different shirt while they sucker-punch us. #OpenRegistrationHurts

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                        @semitones thanks for bringing that up ๐Ÿฉท seems like a good time to boost that post again.

                        @vkc

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                          @vkc ugh. I saw your earlier post and I'm so sorry ๐Ÿซ‚

                          A *lot* of (mostly) guys need to learn the difference between appropriate, consensual flirting, and sexual harassment.

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                          @alice @vkc

                          Absolutely. We, as men, *must* step up. Not only with standing against sexual harassment; but also the "edgy" comments

                          Its easy to spout as a man you'd stand against brutality. But yet we're often quiet when women, POC, are ignored, belittled, etc.

                          Creating a world where we all are safe from harm is stopping **all** forms of harassment, staring, belittling, catcalling. At. All. Times.

                          Men, we need to do better and hold each other accountable. For everyone, including ourselves

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                          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                            @bob I always report and block. My problem is I need the collective *you* to report and block. And more.

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                            @vkc

                            Im an admin over here and when i see it, I become a pitbull ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            • ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฎ  Byrnensorg๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆB ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Byrnensorg๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

                              @alice @vkc I think you are too generous in assuming the *lot* can learn anything at this stage, it's like teaching a hammer 'there are other things than nails you know'.

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                              @byrnensorg I gotta believe we can do better than this, because the alternative is pretty fucking sad.

                              @vkc

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                              • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                @eq "don't let the idiots get you" - do you see how that puts it on me?

                                I trust you mean well, but respectfully: no. The correct response is "men should fight back when they see this amongst themselves."

                                It isn't my responsibility to "not let them get me down." It's men who need to step up and fight this battle.

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                                @vkc @eq that had to be said โค๏ธ

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                                • Matthew LoxtonM Matthew Loxton

                                  @bob

                                  I think the "I" in that reply needs to be "you" and "me" for that to work.
                                  If it is just the woman doing the moderation, then those guys just keep doing it, and it becomes "women's work".

                                  @vkc

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                                  @mloxton @vkc

                                  When/if i see it on Beamship, i become a pitbull...

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                                  • AprazethA Aprazeth

                                    @alice @vkc

                                    Absolutely. We, as men, *must* step up. Not only with standing against sexual harassment; but also the "edgy" comments

                                    Its easy to spout as a man you'd stand against brutality. But yet we're often quiet when women, POC, are ignored, belittled, etc.

                                    Creating a world where we all are safe from harm is stopping **all** forms of harassment, staring, belittling, catcalling. At. All. Times.

                                    Men, we need to do better and hold each other accountable. For everyone, including ourselves

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                                    @alice @vkc

                                    And that also means at places and times where it is just men around.

                                    Especially then.

                                    Silence then is implied endorsement later.

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                                      @byrnensorg I gotta believe we can do better than this, because the alternative is pretty fucking sad.

                                      @vkc

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                                      @alice @vkc I have noticed today in multiple threads that there's a lot of anger out there and dare I say it, twittification, it's as if mastodon is morphing before our very eyes.

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                                      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                        Deleted my post about the sexual harassment I'd received on Fedi, because it was driving more sexual harassment toward me.

                                        Y'all want women on Fedi? Fight that shit. I can't do it for you.

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                                        @vkc sorry you have to deal with that shit. Dudes need to be better. You shouldn't have to put up with the extra BS just because you're a woman on the internet.

                                        If I see I will do my best to call it out. Too much happens in places I can't see which I think is one of the few flaws Masto has. Not sure how to fix that tho. But if I can help I will.

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                                        • Samuel SmithJ Samuel Smith

                                          @vkc men, do better.

                                          Be a man in the internet. Talk about what you like. Cars, weather, trains, sports. See how the replies are on topic.

                                          Be a woman on the internet. Talk about what you like.
                                          Cars, weather, trains, sports. See the replies talking about your boobs. See the DMs filled with, "hey baby", and unsolicited dick pics.

                                          If you are a man, you won't see most - or any! - of what women experience daily online. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Your just in a safe little bubble of privilege. Own it, and do better.

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                                          @Jirikiha @vkc Men know what men are like.

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