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I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

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  • Matthew LoxtonM Matthew Loxton

    @GossiTheDog
    At some point, I hope that the national security guys, the techbros, and everyone in between, will come to a final fucking realization that no matter how pure your thoughts and intentions, building backdoors or skeleton keys will ALWAYS eventually wind up in the wrong hands.

    Like every time
    Always

    It is time these guys grew up and became adults

    CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #69

    @mloxton @GossiTheDog They won't because the goal for them is never to have a working equitable sustainable system. It's to justify their adversarial existence and place on the top above responsibility, screw the people they were supposed to be protecting.

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    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

      I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

      So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

      Howard Chu @ SymasH This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
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      @GossiTheDog a reminder: in cyberspace, all doors are front doors.

      Howard Chu @ Symas (@hyc@mastodon.social)

      @queserasera@infosec.exchange if your tech isn't strong enough to protect the bad guys, it's not strong enough to protect the good guys either. In cyberspace, all doors are front doors. https://mastodon.social/@hyc/113482990473529910

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      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

        I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

        So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

        UmerB This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #71

        @GossiTheDog
        How to cancel bitlocker on Linux?

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        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

          I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

          So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
          https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

          aproitzA This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
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          @GossiTheDog

          Then you can send a #Copy of your #Flat-#Key right away to the #Police-#Station of your Choice, with a Note:
          "In Case of me committing a #Crime or being suspected of doing or planning one, please go to my Flat for seizing #Evidence #instantly."
          It's totally #obsolete to #encrypt your #System, when a #Recovery -Key is saved #unencrypted in a #Microsoft-#Cloud.

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          • CassandrichD Cassandrich

            @froge @GossiTheDog "By default". Rightfully so. The default should never be "you lose everything if you lose your keys". If you want an encrypted drive that you can't recover by putting it in another machine, you should have to opt in to that and understand the risks and availability-confidentiality tradeoff.

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            @dalias@hachyderm.io @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social secure encryption will unavoidably cause you to lose everything if you lose your keys, by default....

            but the real issue is that microsoft engineers know this, and didn't even so much as try to program a secure backup feature that doesn't expose the keys, or even give a popup in the installer warning people that their drives will be completely unencrypted and insecure by default without an MS account... or any of the 1000s other things they could do to communicate their security stance to users tbh

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            • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

              I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

              So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
              https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

              dasgrueneblattD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #74

              @GossiTheDog wtf

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              • Matthew LoxtonM Matthew Loxton

                @GossiTheDog
                At some point, I hope that the national security guys, the techbros, and everyone in between, will come to a final fucking realization that no matter how pure your thoughts and intentions, building backdoors or skeleton keys will ALWAYS eventually wind up in the wrong hands.

                Like every time
                Always

                It is time these guys grew up and became adults

                DB 🌱💦D This user is from outside of this forum
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                DB 🌱💦
                wrote last edited by
                #75

                @mloxton @GossiTheDog Yes, though you're giving them the benefit of the doubt that their original intentions were pure and altruistic. Personally I think the bubble that most tech bros and gals study, work, and reside in, is deeply supremacist and toxic. Nothing truly good can come out of that.

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                • CyberFrogF CyberFrog

                  @dalias@hachyderm.io @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social secure encryption will unavoidably cause you to lose everything if you lose your keys, by default....

                  but the real issue is that microsoft engineers know this, and didn't even so much as try to program a secure backup feature that doesn't expose the keys, or even give a popup in the installer warning people that their drives will be completely unencrypted and insecure by default without an MS account... or any of the 1000s other things they could do to communicate their security stance to users tbh

                  CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @froge @GossiTheDog This is what I'm saying - that it shouldn't be on by default, only with informed consent.

                  For the vast majority of users, losing their photos of their kids or all their personal writing or whatever is much more catastrophic than "someone who seizes my computer might see what's on it".

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                  • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                    I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                    So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

                    Billie BonesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #77

                    @GossiTheDog Microslop strikes again. Anyone interested in keeping their data safe from the pigs should jump ship immediately

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                    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                      I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                      So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

                      Paul in de EmiratenP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #78

                      @GossiTheDog nothing with a back door is secure. I’m saying this since 1993 and I’ve almost got me fired.
                      #nobackdoors

                      And don't get me wrong I have nothing against good old-fashioned police work to hunt down crooks and criminals.

                      (Unusually in the United States a judge is involved if keys are handed over. But we don't know for how long this will be the case. A lot of damage has been done already and this is only the first year.

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                      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                        I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                        So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                        @GossiTheDog
                        It still provides a layer of security, provided the threat actor isn't one of the governments Microsoft cooperates with, can't hack Microsoft's servers, can't impersonate law enforcement, and can't hack your Microsoft account (if I recall correctly, getting a recovery key requires password + SMS token, both of which are easy to steal).

                        In other words, a lock made of papier-mâché.

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