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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

    Notes for Americans:

    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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    @cstross ...i hate to break the news but AI is a "tool" that has it's uses but also it's limitations, AI is great for several things but certainly not for this... The movement calling everything AI "slop", should be replaced by a serious discussion how and when to use AI (and when not).

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    • Tim Ward ⭐πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ”Ά  #FBPET Tim Ward ⭐πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ”Ά #FBPE

      @swetland @cstross Yes, you might have needed one of the round pin variants. I'm old enough to have seen some of the sockets in old buildings but I've never needed to wire up a round pin plug.

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      @TimWardCam @swetland The house I grew up in was only rewired with modern sockets and ring mains in 1974. Before then it was all round-pin sockets (two sizes, small ones for lamps only).

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      • Tim Ward ⭐πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ”Ά  #FBPET Tim Ward ⭐πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ”Ά #FBPE

        @swetland @cstross Yes, you might have needed one of the round pin variants. I'm old enough to have seen some of the sockets in old buildings but I've never needed to wire up a round pin plug.

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        @swetland @cstross You can still buy the plugs separately of course - you might want to do something like build your own extension lead.

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        • Tim Ward ⭐πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ”Ά  #FBPET Tim Ward ⭐πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ”Ά #FBPE

          @swetland @cstross Yes, you might have needed one of the round pin variants. I'm old enough to have seen some of the sockets in old buildings but I've never needed to wire up a round pin plug.

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          @TimWardCam @swetland @cstross 5A lighting circuits use round pin plugs. We have a couple of those in our 2009 house to allow us switch on a couple of small table lights. So I have wired round pin plugs in a modern house.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            @TimWardCam @swetland The house I grew up in was only rewired with modern sockets and ring mains in 1974. Before then it was all round-pin sockets (two sizes, small ones for lamps only).

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            @cstross @swetland Yes, I remember there were two sizes, what I don't remember was the precise mix of two- and three-pin variants.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              @statsguy I can't remember when I last wrote a cheque, either!

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              @cstross Nor can I, now you come to mention it.

              Though I was just discussing with someone recently about when I last sent a fax, which was sometime around 2013, give or take. Probably several years after the penultimate time I sent a fax, but I was communicating with my bank, and weirdly it was the only way they could accept correspondence about what I wanted to talk to them about.

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              • Erik JonkerE Erik Jonker

                @cstross ...i hate to break the news but AI is a "tool" that has it's uses but also it's limitations, AI is great for several things but certainly not for this... The movement calling everything AI "slop", should be replaced by a serious discussion how and when to use AI (and when not).

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                @ErikJonker Shocking to you, I know, but I think the stuff currently sold as AI is bullshit.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                  @cstross
                  Pretty though πŸ˜‰

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                    Notes for Americans:

                    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                    @cstross in the US a 220V appliance comes without plugs so you get to spend $120 on an electrician to wire one on

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                    • greemG greem

                      @cstross Genuine Darwin Award territory.

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                      @greem @cstross we have those already https://aidarwinawards.org/

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        @mpjgregoire @jbayes They didn't fit plugs because doing so would have cost them money *and nobody else was doing so*. Plugs were sold separately to consumers. Every corner shop sold them!

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                        @cstross how many do you keep around, "just in case"? (Me: two or three at least)

                        @mpjgregoire @jbayes

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                          Notes for Americans:

                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                          @cstross out of curiosity, surely it spits out a slightly different thing every time? Have people replicated this? I'm sure it'd give similarly deadly results multiple times

                          which is why people really need to do better and learn what these things are (not) so they don't fking go to it for advice and how-tos in the first place πŸ˜•

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            @ErikJonker Shocking to you, I know, but I think the stuff currently sold as AI is bullshit.

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                            @cstross I am fully aware of all it's limitations , there is an awful lot of AI bullshit around, but actually also a considerable amount of useful applications

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                              Notes for Americans:

                              1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                              2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                              3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                              #154

                              @cstross But a lot has changed in basic ability since 1992. Not in the positive sense either.
                              And people in China now wire the UK plugs on for you.

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                              • topsT tops

                                @cstross how many do you keep around, "just in case"? (Me: two or three at least)

                                @mpjgregoire @jbayes

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                                @tops @mpjgregoire @jbayes I don't any more. Used to keep a couple on hand until the mid-90s.

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                                • Erik JonkerE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @sotolf @cstross Anthropic's Claude Opus 4.6 uncovers 500 zero-day flaws in open-source code https://www.axios.com/2026/02/05/anthropic-claude-opus-46-software-hunting

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                                  • Tim Ward ⭐πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ”Ά  #FBPET Tim Ward ⭐πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸ”Ά #FBPE

                                    @cstross @swetland Yes, I remember there were two sizes, what I don't remember was the precise mix of two- and three-pin variants.

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                                    @TimWardCam @cstross @swetland
                                    There were (and still are) three sizes of round three-pin plugs in UK: 2A, 5A and 15A. Because they don’t have fuses in the plug, the 5A and 15A outlets must be radially wired from a correspondingly-rated circuit breaker. (I’m not sure what the rules are for 2A; that’s almost exclusively used for lighting appliances, often controlled by light switches.)

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                                    • Erik JonkerE Erik Jonker

                                      @sotolf @cstross Anthropic's Claude Opus 4.6 uncovers 500 zero-day flaws in open-source code https://www.axios.com/2026/02/05/anthropic-claude-opus-46-software-hunting

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                                      @sotolf @cstross or if you are into biology, AlphaFold β€” Google DeepMind https://deepmind.google/science/alphafold/ ,

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                                      • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                                        @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                                        @Sie @nygl @cstross r/DINgore would be proud of you.

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                                          @sotolf @cstross AlphaFold 3 (2024) explicitly uses a generative diffusion model

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